Will you Autocross your 86? - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

delongedoug · 02-23-2012, 01:34 PM

Questions without answers at this point. Like everything else, just wait.

Silverpike · 02-23-2012, 06:21 PM

I long ago stopped caring about building a car to the SCCA rulebook. No matter what you do to the car or what class you fall in, in reality you are racing someone else's checkbook.

The day I stopped paying attention to the rules and modded my car anyway I wanted is the day I started having a blast at auto-x.

Tainen · 02-23-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverpike

I long ago stopped caring about building a car to the SCCA rulebook. No matter what you do to the car or what class you fall in, in reality you are racing someone else's checkbook.

The day I stopped paying attention to the rules and modded my car anyway I wanted is the day I started having a blast at auto-x.

thanks for that.

I've got a stage 2 WRX, and I've always been afraid of auto-x for it, because it's not to the rule book so I know I'd be outclassed quite a bit. And now with the BRZ coming, I want to autocross it, but I also want to mod it, and the decision is a tough one.

delongedoug · 02-23-2012, 07:09 PM

I'm in the same boat. It depends on how into it you are and what car you have. Me owning an Evo I couldn't mod became really stupid really fast. Do as you please, go to track, go as fast as you want for extended periods of time. Not knocking autocross, it was fun and I'll always start there with a new car to learn how it behaves. But it's not for me anymore.

Dave-ROR · 02-23-2012, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverpike

I long ago stopped caring about building a car to the SCCA rulebook. No matter what you do to the car or what class you fall in, in reality you are racing someone else's checkbook.

The day I stopped paying attention to the rules and modded my car anyway I wanted is the day I started having a blast at auto-x.

Yeah I run with a group that bases it's groups on SCCA classes but very loosely... it's much more fun.

DSR2409 · 02-23-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tainen

thanks for that.

I've got a stage 2 WRX, and I've always been afraid of auto-x for it, because it's not to the rule book so I know I'd be outclassed quite a bit. And now with the BRZ coming, I want to autocross it, but I also want to mod it, and the decision is a tough one.

Street Touring allows as many modifications as you are likely allowed to do under the factory warranty, and you run on street tires...STX is where I am headed with the FRS, anyway.

Claff · 02-24-2012, 03:18 AM

We run street touring and have the car set up about as much as I'd do it if I was just building a decent street car, though I probably wouldn't be buying a new set of tires every spring. And I'm willing to guess that the two-time national champion in our class has less money in his car than we have in ours (this is kinda sobering).

Building to a rulebook is what you have to do if you want to compare yourself head-to-head with the best in the business. That's what we wanted to do, so that's what we did. And without spending ourselves silly we have a very good local car that's not embarrassingly bad on the national level (31st & 34TH out of 39 last year) with drivers who still have some miles still to go on the learning curve. And we have a fun car that's very streetable still, the wife takes it to work and back a couple times a week here in the lovely DC area.

Since we're semi-serious about our little Miata project, I don't see us autocrossing whatever BRZFRS we wind up getting down the road. Our STS car is too competitive and too much fun to leave home.

AX_FRS · 02-24-2012, 09:28 AM

Short answer:

gt86mods · 02-27-2012, 10:22 PM

I'd rather spend my time & money on a real track, plus who wants potential cone scuffs all over their brand new toy?

But no seriously, being a driving enthusiast I'm sure I'll sign up for as many events as I can, be it autocross or track. I was a bit put off by autocross because you spend 8 hours in the hot sun for maybe 10 minutes of time actually driving.

RabidRat · 02-29-2012, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gt86mods

I'd rather spend my time & money on a real track, plus who wants potential cone scuffs all over their brand new toy?

Cone scuffs are the least of your worries at the track

That said, I agree with you guys.. these days I much prefer HPDE to autocross.

AX_FRS · 02-29-2012, 10:17 AM

I'm too poor to afford the track 1-2 times a month. Autocross is cheaper for me and I like the social interaction with the other people there. Admittedly, I've not been to any local track days.

gt86mods · 02-29-2012, 10:41 AM

For me the biggest turn off was just sitting around, standing on cone duty for the whole day for maybe 4 runs if that. I had fun for sure but I don't know just seems the boredom to fun ratio was far too skewed. Just my thoughts and I know I'll probably do autox again but I'm just being negative I guess :[

no_name · 02-29-2012, 11:42 AM

I'm going to autox the crap out of an FR-S. It's one of the reasons I'm so interested in this car.

Baby Gorilla · 02-29-2012, 06:44 PM

Yes, I will track it.

02-29-2012, 11:42 AM	#111
no_name Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2005 Hyundai Accent Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 306 Thanks: 27 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm going to autox the crap out of an FR-S. It's one of the reasons I'm so interested in this car. __________________ GT86: "This car has two steering wheels: one is circular, the other is operated with the right foot."

02-29-2012, 06:44 PM	#112
Baby Gorilla Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2010 GT500; 2010 C63; 2011 Raptor Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes, I will track it. __________________ 2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 (Modified to 651 RWHP / 634 RWTQ) 2010 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG (Kleeman K1 Tune) 2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor (AIRAID CAI and SCT Custom Tune) 1982 Toyota Celica GT, 5MT Liftback (Sold)

02-23-2012, 01:34 PM	#99
delongedoug Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2.5 RS daily, Evo 8 track Location: A little town called none of your goddamn business Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Questions without answers at this point. Like everything else, just wait.

02-23-2012, 06:21 PM	#100
Silverpike popular among the JDM Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 88 Thanks: 7 Thanked 31 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I long ago stopped caring about building a car to the SCCA rulebook. No matter what you do to the car or what class you fall in, in reality you are racing someone else's checkbook. The day I stopped paying attention to the rules and modded my car anyway I wanted is the day I started having a blast at auto-x.

02-23-2012, 07:09 PM	#102
delongedoug Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2.5 RS daily, Evo 8 track Location: A little town called none of your goddamn business Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm in the same boat. It depends on how into it you are and what car you have. Me owning an Evo I couldn't mod became really stupid really fast. Do as you please, go to track, go as fast as you want for extended periods of time. Not knocking autocross, it was fun and I'll always start there with a new car to learn how it behaves. But it's not for me anymore.

02-24-2012, 03:18 AM	#105
Claff Captain Slow Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 1990 Mazda Miata Location: United States Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	We run street touring and have the car set up about as much as I'd do it if I was just building a decent street car, though I probably wouldn't be buying a new set of tires every spring. And I'm willing to guess that the two-time national champion in our class has less money in his car than we have in ours (this is kinda sobering). Building to a rulebook is what you have to do if you want to compare yourself head-to-head with the best in the business. That's what we wanted to do, so that's what we did. And without spending ourselves silly we have a very good local car that's not embarrassingly bad on the national level (31st & 34TH out of 39 last year) with drivers who still have some miles still to go on the learning curve. And we have a fun car that's very streetable still, the wife takes it to work and back a couple times a week here in the lovely DC area. Since we're semi-serious about our little Miata project, I don't see us autocrossing whatever BRZFRS we wind up getting down the road. Our STS car is too competitive and too much fun to leave home.

02-24-2012, 09:28 AM	#106
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AX_FRS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 05 Ford Focus ZX4 Location: United States Posts: 139 Thanks: 41 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm too poor to afford the track 1-2 times a month. Autocross is cheaper for me and I like the social interaction with the other people there. Admittedly, I've not been to any local track days.

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