Scion VS Toyota

[Manic]

I've been a huge Toyota fan boy since I was a kid, and it pained me to hear that the Celica was being discontinued. In my mind, that was their last "fun" car. I really wish they'd drop the Matrix and bring over the Corolla hatch, but that's never going to happen.

That being said, while I don't particularly mind Scion badges, it's just a mental thing for me. It's like when you go to a restaurant, and you ask for Coke, and they say "Sorry, we only have Pepsi, will that be alright?" You have that sort of "Yeah, I guess so." Not the best analogy, but close enough.

Also, I have big plans for the styling of my 86, and it needed the Toyota badges for that.

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I'd just like to point out that this is a supply issue, not that people prefer Scion/Toyota over Subaru. Depending on region Toyotas/Scions make up between 60% and 90% of 86's imported.

Head on over to this thread, I wouldn't say 'people don't seem to have a problem with Scion' even though they bought the car. I don't think there's more than two pages without a complaint about the Scion brand.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8629

Could be a supply issue. Could also be cross-shoppers. Someone looking to get an Imprezza or WRX is not going to want a BRZ. But someone looking at a tC would drool over the FR-S.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

Could be a supply issue. Could also be cross-shoppers. Someone looking to get an Imprezza or WRX is not going to want a BRZ. But someone looking at a tC would drool over the FR-S.

While true, Toyota and FHI have a contract that dictates how many units are produced and how many are shipped out as Subaru's or Scions or Toyotas, if there's any flexibility it'd probably be up to Subaru to ramp up production if they want more units, Toyota already has their cars ordered and Subaru is obligated to fulfill those orders first.

The UK market has 90% of 86's sold as Toyotas and 10% as Subaru, that's a much smaller volume than the US market (<3,000 units over a year per the article below, compared to ~30,000 in the US), it would be relatively trivial to skew the numbers more in Subaru's favor by reducing the output to a couple other markets. Does that mean that the demand for the GT86 is 9x more than the demand for BRZ? I really doubt that, especially in the land that birthed Colin Mcrae...

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=28149

[tennisfreak]

I don't have anything against the Scion logo really but I did not like how cluttered my rear end looked with the huge Scion logo and the FR-S badge.


So on my rear end I removed the FR-S badge and replaced the Scion logo with the 86 piston badge.


It looks really nice and clean. I still have my Scion badge on the front though.

[Chad86]

Has anyone taken off the FR-S badge and replaced with the GT86 logo? This way it would show on the back as Scion (top, middle) Toyota (left) and GT86 (right).