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*LongFella · 12-11-2013, 11:53 PM

I would spend a few more Benjamin's and get a new one. The FRS is meant to be driven hard and put away wet. It's a sports car. I would assume any used FRS has been pushed to its limits... certified or not.

*LongFella · 12-11-2013, 11:54 PM

Reni has a point... Most (if not all) new vehicles depreciate immediately after it is bought and driven off the lot...

Dadhawk · 12-12-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by reni

For just a little more you can get a brand new one, IMHO it's a no brainer.

Personally, even if a car only has 1,000 miles on it, it would have to be at least $4k-5k below what a new one is currently going for me to even consider it...

It's not really a no-brainer, depending on how you look at it...

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Originally Posted by *LongFella

Reni has a point... Most (if not all) new vehicles depreciate immediately after it is bought and driven off the lot...

They do, but not 16% or so as @reni suggests for 1,000 miles on it. Maybe up to 5% but that would even be stretching it.

Bottom line is that the car still has basically its full warranty on it and is a discount. 1,000 miles is nothing, I'd take the discount anytime unless there was obvious abuse.

Then again, I buy used (up to 100,000 mile) cars all the time, and have never owned a car that I put less than 150,000 miles on so I may not be the best person to listen to! (My last two DD went over 250,000 miles)

gily25 · 12-12-2013, 01:09 PM

Mileage isn't always the best tell...I've seen low mileage cars that clearly were never washed or the PO failed at trying to install mods correctly. Not to mention, you don't know if something is original to the low mileage car, for instance they could have swapped wheels with a friend who has 30k miles and those tires need replacing, or maybe they were learning to drive stick. For being so close to the price of a new one, are you REALLY saving that much? Plus if you buy new, most of the times your insurance will be cheaper because of a "new car" discount for something like the first 3 years, so factor that in too, ask your agent to quote you on new and used. If we were talking about the depreciation drop of a 5 year old Vette or Porsche, even certain pick-ups, then yeah it makes so much sense to look for used, but I just don't see it here.

tennisfreak · 12-12-2013, 01:18 PM

Be patient and wait until after Xmas.

If the dealer still has the certified on the lot offer $20k flat.

They will take it.

If you cant get it for 20k then walk and wait to find another.

Right now dealer has slight upper hand since they maybe feel like they will get someone wanting a Xmas present and will bite before the 25th. After the 25th time is running out before EOY and they pay taxes for it sitting there. They will be willing to knock more off the price just to cover the lost tax cost on it.

I once did that with a brand new Ford Ranger. Walked onto the lot December 28 and offered 9.5K for a truck with a sticker of 15.9K. They told me no and I told them you have 15 of the exact same configuration on your lot and good luck.
They sold me the truck for 9.9K. Best deal I ever made. Nothing down and a payment of less than $200 per month!

Ryuu0u · 12-12-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by N_A

This guy is in my area. No affiliation.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/4198298006.html

I know you're not local but if you're interested, I'd go check it out for you.

Yeah i probably wouldn't buy from someone who listed it as a 5 speed manual. lol

Kwisak · 12-12-2013, 05:06 PM

Lower mileage alone would make it worth it to me, the certified just adds to it. Always can attempt to get it lower as well

N_A · 12-13-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryuu0u

Yeah i probably wouldn't buy from someone who listed it as a 5 speed manual. lol

That's probably why he's selling it. He probably thought it was slow and was getting bad gas mileage. Lol.

I didn't even catch that. Maybe he thinks the car also has a V4.

reni · 12-13-2013, 12:37 AM

Perhaps in strictly numeric terms, 1,000 miles is almost the same as a new car, and from a dealer's perspective, they might think it should be priced as such.

But out here in the real world, it might make a big difference depending on how the car was treated in those first few miles. Additionally I can say from experience it will also make a difference when I try to sell the car... a one-owner car I have owned since it rolled off the truck definitely gets better responses vs something with a dubious history.

So yeah, even with very low miles, there is some risk to me to get a used car vs new, and unless I'm properly compensated for that risk, I'll walk away every time.

ZionsWrath · 12-13-2013, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N_A

This guy is in my area. No affiliation.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/4198298006.html

I know you're not local but if you're interested, I'd go check it out for you.

5 speed manual

12-12-2013, 01:09 PM	#32
gily25 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Silica BRZ 6MT Location: 06103 Posts: 650 Thanks: 97 Thanked 115 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mileage isn't always the best tell...I've seen low mileage cars that clearly were never washed or the PO failed at trying to install mods correctly. Not to mention, you don't know if something is original to the low mileage car, for instance they could have swapped wheels with a friend who has 30k miles and those tires need replacing, or maybe they were learning to drive stick. For being so close to the price of a new one, are you REALLY saving that much? Plus if you buy new, most of the times your insurance will be cheaper because of a "new car" discount for something like the first 3 years, so factor that in too, ask your agent to quote you on new and used. If we were talking about the depreciation drop of a 5 year old Vette or Porsche, even certain pick-ups, then yeah it makes so much sense to look for used, but I just don't see it here.

12-12-2013, 05:06 PM	#35
Kwisak Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ GBS Location: Arizona Posts: 261 Thanks: 65 Thanked 57 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lower mileage alone would make it worth it to me, the certified just adds to it. Always can attempt to get it lower as well

12-13-2013, 12:37 AM	#37
reni Nobody beats the B[I\|R]Z Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: shopping cart i stole from walmart Location: somewhere Posts: 939 Thanks: 262 Thanked 1,145 Times in 456 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Perhaps in strictly numeric terms, 1,000 miles is almost the same as a new car, and from a dealer's perspective, they might think it should be priced as such. But out here in the real world, it might make a big difference depending on how the car was treated in those first few miles. Additionally I can say from experience it will also make a difference when I try to sell the car... a one-owner car I have owned since it rolled off the truck definitely gets better responses vs something with a dubious history. So yeah, even with very low miles, there is some risk to me to get a used car vs new, and unless I'm properly compensated for that risk, I'll walk away every time.

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