Random thoughts thread

[Liltuffgirl]

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious

I used to let those people know by flicking my lights off/on. Now I just let natural selection do its thing.

I did that to two different vehicles... Didn't work so I turned my blue ones on. Surprisingly neither were drunk, just idiots.

We have snow..... I hate snow. Screw you snow!

[Taro]

Disney apparently owns Indiana Jones now. I guess it's time they ruined my childhood. They've ruined everyone else's already.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

To stagger or not to stagger...

Spec/mods? & what are you trying to accomplish? Track? Autox? Car show? Dd?

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by dem00n

To understeer or not to understeer....

M3s have staggered setup and they oversteer...

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

M3s have staggered setup and they oversteer...

From factory, no?

[Anthony]

About to get to work on the interior, finally. But it's colder'n shit outside and I really don't want to.


I'm mostly posting this to call myself out on doing it, thus peer pressuring myself into finishing.

GET PSYCHED!!!

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by dem00n

From factory, no?

Yep

[Steve201brz]

New phone... first app? Tapatalk of course haha
I've gone mobile!

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[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Yep

If you say that, look 911 GT3 RS-R, it understeer & that sucker have crazy stagger. It's not about stagger = understeer. It's all about setup. M3 stagger to get more grip in the rear (even it's not wide enough) to get all the power to the ground.

...vs 86, they're underpowered car, hell if you want, you can run 255 all around (w/o a rub) to make it track monster. If you add more power, prob can stagger to get better balance (so it won't oversteer too much) by doing f255/r275... but let's face it, just doing simple bolt on mods, NA power, you can run grippy 225 all around. It's very entertaining to see members running 245~265 on just exhaust mods & they complain that it doesn't drift or it's underpowered... well no sh!t it's underpowered! Run 215 or 225 with decent grip & skill up the driving lvl & come back w 245~265 tires lol

/rant

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Yep

No stock car has natural oversteer. It is also fantastically rare for race setups to be biased to oversteer. Some are just more sensitive to aggressive driver action. Not the same thing.

[Nevermore]

Originally Posted by dem00n

You can find tons of debates online, there's no real facts because well...all set ups differ.

But yes, many would argue staggered causes understeer and different steering feedback, don't know how it works on the twins but i'm assuming the same. Though maybe with the right offset you might not notice the difference, but i'm talking out of my ass at this point.

I assume your doing it for looks?

Also do note, you can't rotate tires then!

I would only want to do it if it was good for performance. I would probably prefer a squared set up, especially for the ability to rotate the tires. I just knew staggered was another option and I was looking at everything since I can't make any choices just yet.

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Spec/mods? & what are you trying to accomplish? Track? Autox? Car show? Dd?

It'd be just a DD. I'm probably going to do a squared setup unless there's a really good reason to do the staggered.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

I would only want to do it if it was good for performance. I would probably prefer a squared set up, especially for the ability to rotate the tires. I just knew staggered was another option and I was looking at everything since I can't make any choices just yet.

It'd be just a DD. I'm probably going to do a squared setup unless there's a really good reason to do the staggered.

The. Don't bother go stagger. 225 wide w decent grippy tires will but you prenty of fun time (of in the street & track)

[Nevermore]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

The. Don't bother go stagger. 225 wide w decent grippy tires will but you prenty of fun time (of in the street & track)

I was playing with one of the calculator things for tire size earlier and it looks like for an 18x8 wheel (I'd also prefer 17x8, but a lot of the wheels I like are 18x8) the perfect size is 235/35/18. It was almost dead on diameter/speedo reading for stock. But when I searched on tire sites I only found like 2 different tires.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

If you say that, look 911 GT3 RS-R, it understeer & that sucker have crazy stagger. It's not about stagger = understeer. It's all about setup. M3 stagger to get more grip in the rear (even it's not wide enough) to get all the power to the ground.

...vs 86, they're underpowered car, hell if you want, you can run 255 all around (w/o a rub) to make it track monster. If you add more power, prob can stagger to get better balance (so it won't oversteer too much) by doing f255/r275... but let's face it, just doing simple bolt on mods, NA power, you can run grippy 225 all around. It's very entertaining to see members running 245~265 on just exhaust mods & they complain that it doesn't drift or it's underpowered... well no sh!t it's underpowered! Run 215 or 225 with decent grip & skill up the driving lvl & come back w 245~265 tires lol

/rant

well... that was some rant... I don't plan on runing tires wider than 235... which is what my mustang and my bimmer had stock...