Visconti Tuning - Latest BRZ Flash Info

[JiB]

Originally Posted by jamesm

lol @ $1399 for a (bad) tune. that's hilarious. do people actually pay that for a tune, from anyone?

thats cheap in Australia...

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by Victor Draken

who are the 2 most famous name?

can anybody help me answer this

[JDKane527]

Trying out v1.16 b3 stg2 ntm and otm, I prefer the feel of the old throttle map. Will be switching back to latest FA20club stg2 tune to see how it feels. I'm undecided which kool-aid I prefer, will see which feels better at the track this weekend.

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

can anybody help me answer this

I'm going to guess Visconti and FA20club.

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[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

No, why would it? Because I haven't jumped on the Borla and Visconti hate bandwagons with all the cool kids like you? LOL

Guess I'm a cool kid. Better than being a Visconti supporter and defending the asshole. I don't have to buy any of his crap to realize this. That's why I read these forums because they INFORM.

And yes, Borla is still garbage but people are lucky they'll endlessly replace them till their robot cranks out a good one.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

He joked that Orb would get banned again soon for the post he made right before Tut's

I get a reminder every so often...

[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Guess I'm a cool kid. Better than being a Visconti supporter and defending the asshole. I don't have to buy any of his crap to realize this. That's why I read these forums because they INFORM.

And yes, Borla is still garbage but people are lucky they'll endlessly replace them till their robot cranks out a good one.

You're entitled to your opinion and so am I.


I went with Visconti for my tune based on all the very positive recommendations and INFORMATION I read on this forum! It's a great tune and just because a very vocal minority on this forum hate him personally and are actively trying to dissuade all members from using him doesn't mean much to me. JV might be an asshole in person, don't know, don't care. All I care about is that I got a great tune for my money. +17WHP, +10lbs TQ and no TQ dip.





As for Borla headers, mine is far from "garbage". I've seen better and worse before. The Borla UEL eliminates the TQ dip and makes good HP with a good tune. You can do a little better for a lot more money but that's usually the case with everything in this world.


Why don't you try promoting your favorite tuner and header maker rather than polluting threads like this with your blind hate? I believe there is a vendor review section if you're not happy with your JV tune and Borla header, assuming you even have either...

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

You're entitled to your opinion and so am I.


I went with Visconti for my tune based on all the very positive recommendations and INFORMATION I read on this forum! It's a great tune and just because a very vocal minority on this forum hate him personally and are actively trying to dissuade all members from using him doesn't mean much to me. JV might be an asshole in person, don't know, don't care. All I care about is that I got a great tune for my money. +17WHP, +10lbs TQ and no TQ dip.





As for Borla headers, mine is far from "garbage". I've seen better and worse before. The Borla UEL eliminates the TQ dip and makes good HP with a good tune. You can do a little better for a lot more money but that's usually the case with everything in this world.


Why don't you try promoting your favorite tuner and header maker rather than polluting threads like this with your blind hate? I believe there is a vendor review section if you're not happy with your JV tune and Borla header, assuming you even have either...

From my own experience, the quality of JV's tune depends on the quality of the gas the end user has. My AM was dropping like a rock in a vacuum when I was on JV's pump gas tune, even after the typical "looks good." I switched to Delicious Tuning's 91 octane tune and the AM almost didn't move at all. I still got three updates (iirc) as Bill made sure the AM didn't move at all and cleaned up a few, exceptionally mild, drivability issues.

I've seen a lot of guys say they are happy with JV's work, but I'm pretty sure every one of them have had decent gas available to them. If someone falls under that catagory then they should be fine with JV. But for everyone else, I wouldn't let him anywhere near my car.

[vgi]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

All I care about is that I got a great tune for my money. +17WHP, +10lbs TQ and no TQ dip.

good numbers. how safe is it though, do you have logs for KC?

[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by Calum

From my own experience, the quality of JV's tune depends on the quality of the gas the end user has. My AM was dropping like a rock in a vacuum when I was on JV's pump gas tune, even after the typical "looks good." I switched to Delicious Tuning's 91 octane tune and the AM almost didn't move at all. I still got three updates (iirc) as Bill made sure the AM didn't move at all and cleaned up a few, exceptionally mild, drivability issues.

I've seen a lot of guys say they are happy with JV's work, but I'm pretty sure every one of them have had decent gas available to them. If someone falls under that catagory then they should be fine with JV. But for everyone else, I wouldn't let him anywhere near my car.

Thanks for offering something more substantive than simply accusing JV of being the anti-Christ. I can't agree or disagree with your critique because I just don't have enough firsthand experience with his and others FA20 tunes. I have 93 available everywhere I go and I'll probably stick with JV until I have good reason not to.

Originally Posted by vgi

good numbers. how safe is it though, do you have logs for KC?

Very safe IMO since it's just a stage 2 header tune. I'd worry more about the KC and AM if I was FI. How accurate is the knock detection plug-in for Torque? I could log that but I don't have a ECUTek cable. I had my car dyno tuned at a local shop.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Thanks for offering something more substantive than simply accusing JV of being the anti-Christ. I can't agree or disagree with your critique because I just don't have enough firsthand experience with his and others FA20 tunes. I have 93 available everywhere I go and I'll probably stick with JV until I have good reason not to.

Runs 93 on 91 tune?

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Very safe IMO since it's just a stage 2 header tune. I'd worry more about the KC and AM if I was FI. How accurate is the knock detection plug-in for Torque? I could log that but I don't have a ECUTek cable. I had my car dyno tuned at a local shop.

Ok....

[mikalem]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Thanks for offering something more substantive than simply accusing JV of being the anti-Christ. I can't agree or disagree with your critique because I just don't have enough firsthand experience with his and others FA20 tunes. I have 93 available everywhere I go and I'll probably stick with JV until I have good reason not to.




Very safe IMO since it's just a stage 2 header tune. I'd worry more about the KC and AM if I was FI. How accurate is the knock detection plug-in for Torque? I could log that but I don't have a ECUTek cable. I had my car dyno tuned at a local shop.

I also have had the chance to try out multiple vendors and I can say my experience with Johns tune is similar - his base 93 map just seems too aggressive - I have seen cases where just at normal highway cruise the car would log a series of knock events, just negative 1 sometimes, but the AM would fall from 1 down to .4 and stay there for a bit. Since he has the AM set to 1 by default the car constantly is fighting to try and bring it up. John seemed to want to blame it on bad gas, however other tunes on the same tank didn't display the same problem so I don't really think that's the case and I can just conclude that his tune is too aggressive for a daily driver NA car.

Another note - torque's knock detector isn't all that accurate compared to the KC/AM values recorded by EcuTek - if you are going to continue running Johns tune I would suggest getting a cable to do some logging of your normal day to day operation, just to verify you are not having the same problems.

I wanted to give John the benefit of the doubt, mostly because I spent a good deal of money with him, but hindsight being 20/20 I can't say I would use his services again, there are other better cheaper options available. YMMV.

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[vgi]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Very safe IMO .... I could log that but I don't have a ECUTek cable...

another words you don't know as you have never logged it.

i think you should worry even if you're not FI. ever herd about DI seals melting on stock cars / stock tunes?

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Calum

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Thanks for offering something more substantive than simply accusing JV of being the anti-Christ. I can't agree or disagree with your critique because I just don't have enough firsthand experience with his and others FA20 tunes. I have 93 available everywhere I go and I'll probably stick with JV until I have good reason not to.




Very safe IMO since it's just a stage 2 header tune. I'd worry more about the KC and AM if I was FI. How accurate is the knock detection plug-in for Torque? I could log that but I don't have a ECUTek cable. I had my car dyno tuned at a local shop.

Those logs I posted a few pages back were on the stage 1 tune. I do hope you're right that everything is ok, but I implore you to check.

[SkullWorks]

Originally Posted by Calum

Those logs I posted a few pages back were on the stage 1 tune. I do hope you're right that everything is ok, but I implore you to check.

Why I'm sure it "looks Good"