Toyota FT-86 VS Nissan IDx FreeFlow: Battle of The Japanese Compact Cars

[vh_supra26]

I think the 350Z was the last good looking sports to come from Nissan.

[Turbowned]

I don't think it looks bad, but I think they should be focusing their efforts on the next Z or Silvia, and not mucking about with all these concepts that will never see production!

[Rampage]

Nissan has not been right since the French bought them. At least not styling wise.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

^Yeah it kinda does.

I may be biased, but the Celica wore that beltline much better than this concept.
I love the idea, but even the front end with those cartoonish headlamps looks a bit goofy.

[strat61caster]

Nissan wins me over, the FT86 looks like just another Jellybean, hell it could pass for a Prius Sport (hah hybrid rumors get brought up here daily too). Nissan falls in line with current Mustang/Camaro/Challenger/Charger styling and I love the 510/BMW 2002. I know it has flaws, ones that would be difficult to overlook if this actually made production, but every concept car has some wonkiness that gets shaken off when it comes time for production for the FT86 it was the taillights, rear badging and trunk and a grill that looks like this:



Shame they couldn't add some memorable lines into it.

In any case, I don't trust Nissan to get it right at this stage of the game and the only way I would consider switching is if the 86 became a moneypit rivaling the German/Italian sports cars and Nissan pulled off a car that was just as fun as the 86.

[Zaku]

wouldn't it make more sense to compare apples and apples and not apples and oranges. That Nissan Concept isn't anything at all in competition with the 86, it's two totally different cars. Your basically comparing a 2000gt to a 510, totally different segment. If you were comparing a 2000gt to a 240z then it would make more sense. Overwhelmingly your going to get a one sided 86 is better, since one is modeled after a sports car from the 60s the other is a sorta like a muscle car but just a compact car of the 60s. production, concept or not it's not a viable comparison.

you might as well compare the FT86 concept to a Truck concept and ask the same question with this sort of mentality.

86 is going to win on the pure fact it's a sleek sports car. Compare it a rock etc. Unless it's a Silvia Concept or a Z concept. it's pretty much invalid.even if those don't exist it's not a fair comparison.

[ichitaka05]

They had a good idea... just I think, they mess up the design

[Vides990]

Nissan isn't competing with anyone using that atrocity.

[Teclis]

The Nissan IDX Nismo, looks good But the Freeflow nah..

[Mad1723]

You know what makes me laugh about this car? One of Nissan's VP recently started a shitstorm saying that the FR-S was for men with midlife crisis. He said their car would be more attractive to young people.

But now, they are showing a remake of a car from 1968-1973 that was built as a first sports car/daily driver for young people at that time. I find that quite ironic really.

[Tromatic]

You have three of the most desirable vintage Japanese sports cars to draw from, and you come up with this POS?

Originally Posted by Mad1723

You know what makes me laugh about this car? One of Nissan's VP recently started a shitstorm saying that the FR-S was for men with midlife crisis. He said their car would be more attractive to young people.

50, and I would not buy that horrid thing. He may have a point, though, given the amount of "younger" FR-S owners who spend large amounts of cash turning a beautiful car into a fugly-ass "ricer".

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Zaku

That Nissan Concept isn't anything at all in competition with the 86, it's two totally different cars. Your basically comparing a 2000gt to a 510, totally different segment.

Dafuq are you smoking? The 510 was a sports car in an econo box body, much closer to the ae86 Corolla inspiration than the Toyobaru ever got, they are still regularly raced from local AutoX and HPDE to world famous vintage races (Laguna Seca comes to mind). How many races did the 2000GT win? The 510 dominated SCCA. If this hits the target (1.6L Turbo, RWD, < 3,000 lbs, 6 speed MT, <$30k) it would be the closest competition the 86 will likely ever see in it's lifetime with the only current alternatives being muscle cars with 300+ hp and well over 3,200 lbs or a roadster (really just the Miata at this point, Alfa in the future).

Very much apples to apples aside from the styling choices.

I also find it hilarious that Nissan exec calls the Toyobaru "midlife crisis car" and then comes out with a competitor decked out in retro styling that will really only appeal to the nostalgics or odd-balls.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Zaku

wouldn't it make more sense to compare apples and apples and not apples and oranges. That Nissan Concept isn't anything at all in competition with the 86, it's two totally different cars. Your basically comparing a 2000gt to a 510, totally different segment. If you were comparing a 2000gt to a 240z then it would make more sense. Overwhelmingly your going to get a one sided 86 is better, since one is modeled after a sports car from the 60s the other is a sorta like a muscle car but just a compact car of the 60s. production, concept or not it's not a viable comparison.

you might as well compare the FT86 concept to a Truck concept and ask the same question with this sort of mentality.

86 is going to win on the pure fact it's a sleek sports car. Compare it a rock etc. Unless it's a Silvia Concept or a Z concept. it's pretty much invalid.even if those don't exist it's not a fair comparison.

nissan built this car just to take on the 86/frs/brz. the z isnt in the same class as the 86. its heavier V6 2 seater that cost about $5k more...

when nissan makes a production version it will be the closest thing to the 86.

[Kwisak]

The Nissian looks ugly as hell. I mean concept generally look amazing and the actual car gets toned down, but in this case when it gets toned down from the concept its going to be one ugly car.