FR-S/BRZ vs. Genesis Coupe

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

If same price or +/- $500 of each other you still go with FRS?

Hard to say. I make, er, emotional-based decisions. And not just about the drive. How I cope with retarded sales reps will factor in.

I'm anticipating that the FR-S is a vastly more direct, responsive and communicative car. But I've owned 4 (I can't count in the morning...)Mk3 Supras, 2 turbos, 1 twin turbo and an NA that was supposed to get a 2JZ swap that never happened. The Mk3 is roughly GenCoupe weight and wel,l turbos are nice. This all leads to the fact that I was very interested in the GenCoupe when it released, but the reviews were meh, and then I found out about this car. So if they un-meh the negative parts, it is still a type of car that I can enjoy.

That being said, my first car was a '92 SOHC VTEC Civic Si hatch. Bone stock except for 15" alloy rims. And the car was an absolute blast. The motor's response was awesome, only the short-stroke twin ceramic turbo 1JZ comes anywhere close (but it did have over 2X the power). So I can imagine a cross between a Mk3 Supra (RWD, wheelbase is close) and a Civic Si is what the FR-S may end up being.

So emotional response to drive. Then to salesman. Over $500? Hard to say still. Argh, I need a test drive...

[SVTSHC]

Car and driver is estimating the FRS to retail in the US for $26k. This meaning, for me this'll be a tough choice. My girl already called the FRS "Cute", which shot a chill down my spine.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by SVTSHC

Car and driver is estimating the FRS to retail in the US for $26k. This meaning, for me this'll be a tough choice. My girl already called the FRS "Cute", which shot a chill down my spine.

why? that's good

now you can mod it and she won't get mad

[SVTSHC]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

why? that's good

now you can mod it and she won't get mad

Haha, true enough. I mean she wouldn't get mad anyway, I'm one of the lucky ones that found himself a gamer/car-chick/gymnut. [british voice]Mythological creatures, them.[/british voice]

[Mr.Jay]

[QUOTE=SUB-FT86;135167]You always make it seem like I favor cars over the FR-S but what you don't understand is that unlike you I pledge no allegiance to no brand. I know you love Toyota and think everything they do is perfect and that's why me and you always got off on the wrong foot. QUOTE]

If an intelligent debate is what you really want you should really stop calliung everyone that disagrees with you a fanboy since it completely makes any arguement its a trolling rant

I am saying this not as an attack but an observation as I have seen you pull the "you are a fanboy" card numerous times. Like SVTSHC mention there needs to be someone on the other side for a debate to occur so I don't think it is fair that you can play devils advocate, play the victim of the "gc hate" and then try and degrade other by calling them fanboys.

[cassidy0998]

Has anyone else noticed that this is one of the more popular threads on the site? There's something to be said for that.

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Do you remember the first mule for the FT86? It was a shortened Impreza frankenstein. The BRZ platform is from the Impreza. How long have you been following this car? You seem new at it or you're just in denial about it. If this car wasn't based off the Impreza it would have been more expensive. It is what it is.

Originally Posted by tranzformer

You are way off on your assessment. You should read up more on the GC and the BRZ. Comparison of BRZ to Impreza is just as valid as GC to the sedan. Don't understand why you have an issue with this?

Based off of an impreza is not the same altogether. I understand they share tons of parts, typical subaru. But the chassis is unique to the BRZ, Subaru has a tech article that exemplifies the differences it has with the impreza.

If you think a BRZ is to an Impreza what a Genesis Coupe is to a Genesis than you are the one that should read up more.

[vq37]

Not sure if people have seen this:

http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/2...upe-392/page1/

http://www.autospies.com/news/NEW-Pi...-Cruise-69161/

Many new pictures of the Genesis coupe. This is the GT version, without the 19 inch wheels, brembos, etc























The front is still iffy, and prefer the 19s over these 18s.







36.5 mpg wtf? lol

[serialk11r]

Aw crap, it's SO pretty except for that crap on the front...

And 36.5mpg is hardly surprising, that is a beautifully long 6th gear to be barely above 2200 rpm at 75. I'd say that's actually pretty crappy for that sort of gearing if it's a 2L, probably because of the turbo. I think Hyundai is using 8 speed auto on this? Toyota could use a lesson in maximizing fuel economy with good gear ratios.

[SUB-FT86]

[QUOTE=Mr.Jay;135632]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

You always make it seem like I favor cars over the FR-S but what you don't understand is that unlike you I pledge no allegiance to no brand. I know you love Toyota and think everything they do is perfect and that's why me and you always got off on the wrong foot. QUOTE]

If an intelligent debate is what you really want you should really stop calliung everyone that disagrees with you a fanboy since it completely makes any arguement its a trolling rant

I am saying this not as an attack but an observation as I have seen you pull the "you are a fanboy" card numerous times. Like SVTSHC mention there needs to be someone on the other side for a debate to occur so I don't think it is fair that you can play devils advocate, play the victim of the "gc hate" and then try and degrade other by calling them fanboys.

Hey I just call it as I see it. You have to admit that with a Toyota based vehicle on a forum there is bound to be bias-ness.

[OrbitalEllipses]

It's really a shame the GC is a butterface. Otherwise, a good car on paper.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Based off of an impreza is not the same altogether. I understand they share tons of parts, typical subaru. But the chassis is unique to the BRZ, Subaru has a tech article that exemplifies the differences it has with the impreza.

If you think a BRZ is to an Impreza what a Genesis Coupe is to a Genesis than you are the one that should read up more.

I feel you should do the same because you said the GC is just like the sedan minus 2 doors. The GC is not like a Honda Accord coupe and the other 2 door versions on other sedans out there. I got all the information I needed about the FT86 already.

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Aw crap, it's SO pretty except for that crap on the front...

+1. That whole front end is a total train wreck. If they had done something different, could have been a real winner.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

It's really a shame the GC is a butterface. Otherwise, a good car on paper.

An aftermarket company needs to make a new front bumper and this car can possibly look good again.