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Old 11-20-2013, 12:51 AM   #113
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Finally moving on! Rotaries should be sold in other markets, Mazda can still make money just not in cars.

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Old 11-20-2013, 05:18 AM   #114
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The feel and sound of the rotary was an amazing experience unlike anything else, and isn't that why we are all here? If we valued fuel efficiency more than driving experience, all of our conversations would revolve around hypermiling in our soulless FWD econoboxes...

But having said that, I don't see why they can't just have both rotary and piston versions of the same car... the enthusiasts could have the car they wanted, and the beancounters could have their sales figures.

A modern iteration of the RX-7 would have rivaled the Cayman S in both performance and driving experience for half the cost, so it's really disappointing to think we won't get a car like that, and I think Mazda is only company who could really pull it off. (not interested in a heavy dull Z) Perhaps with all the focus on sales volume will lead to Mazda making more variations of the Miata platform? I wouldn't mind an "MX-7" coupe with the 2.3 turbo...
Yeah, MX-7 Coupé with aggressive styling.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:55 AM   #115
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Awh. I wanted another rotary. My fb I bought was.... very molested beyond repair unless I wanted to throw lots of money I didn't have at the time

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Old 11-20-2013, 05:56 AM   #116
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Awh. I wanted another rotary. My fb I bought was.... very molested beyond repair unless I wanted to throw lots of money I didn't have at the time

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Molested by a PO... I didn't know what I was gonna get

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Old 11-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #117
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The feel and sound of the rotary was an amazing experience unlike anything else, and isn't that why we are all here? If we valued fuel efficiency more than driving experience, all of our conversations would revolve around hypermiling in our soulless FWD econoboxes...

But having said that, I don't see why they can't just have both rotary and piston versions of the same car... the enthusiasts could have the car they wanted, and the beancounters could have their sales figures.

A modern iteration of the RX-7 would have rivaled the Cayman S in both performance and driving experience for half the cost, so it's really disappointing to think we won't get a car like that, and I think Mazda is only company who could really pull it off. (not interested in a heavy dull Z) Perhaps with all the focus on sales volume will lead to Mazda making more variations of the Miata platform? I wouldn't mind an "MX-7" coupe with the 2.3 turbo...
Point of reference: my FWD econobox that makes less power/weight than my FRS is 10 seconds a lap faster around a track and does it with less fuel.

But I digress and I agree with what you said with the exception of the noise.
There is nothing quite as horrific as the sound of a rotary engine, especially at the race track. If I am unfortunate enough to have to paddock by one I will try to place a trailer or tow vehicle between their car and my paddock spot. They make like 96dB while idling. I have to wear earplugs in the paddock! The gasses that leave the tail pipe are so bad that if you follow one long enough on the race track your eyes will begin watering and shortly after that you will become dizzy. I shit you not. This has physically happened to me more than once.

I like the MX-7 coupe idea and with the new SkyActive engines it would be fun, fast, reliable and efficient. That would be neat. Mazda needs another rwd sports coupe. If the 6 was RWD, I would have traded in my FRS already.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:23 PM   #118
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If we valued fuel efficiency more than driving experience, all of our conversations would revolve around hypermiling in our soulless FWD econoboxes...
If I was poorer, I would hypermile the brz in order to save enough money to buy parts to support tracking it. economy does matter when our budgets are limited and modest...
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:25 PM   #119
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Damn did not see that coming but at the same time I saw that coming...
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:28 PM   #121
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Honestly, I don't care about the rotary engine, I care about some hardtop MX-5, that was the RX-7 but with rotary engine.
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:08 PM   #122
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Engineering-wise, I don't see how a rotary motor can't be made more reliable. Obviously, since there aren't enough mass produced rotary motors made, the technology and money to make them more reliable and fuel efficient never really developed. the only way the money and technology will develop is if companies start making and perfecting rotary motors.

I, for one, would love to see rotary motors make a come back. But I'm a bit idealistic.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:09 PM   #123
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The skyactive engine operates on the Atkinson cycle which compromises power for efficiency. Hardly exciting from a performance perspective. The zoom zoom/rust rust brand has somehow averted bankruptcy despite having zero North American production when currencyconversion demands manufacturers to do so.

They can keep their tin cans AFAIC. Wanna keep all your money in Japan, then try and make all their money there too. You get your share just as you give your share. Thumbs down.
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