Anyone concerned with Consumers "not recomended rating"?

[SubaSteve]

CR is only good for when you have no reading material and are taking a huge poo.

[Poodles]

All you need to read to know CR is full of crap is what they say about the Jeep Wrangler and the shady business with the Suzuki Samurai.

[BRZfan]

Haven't read the the Consumer Reports review but, in my opinion:

Wrangler or Wrangler Limited:
1. Very low gas mileage
2. Overpriced
3. Poor ride quality relative to other SUV's in its class
4. The design is getting old but is sold because it is unique, has a popular trade name (Jeep) and has a cult following.

They may have great off-road qualities but most buyers, I suspect, don't take them off-road much.
Consumer Reports has only had a preliminary review of the 2014 Jeep Cherokee but I expect their 'full' review will be very complimentary. The Cherokee replaces the 'Liberty' which was a big loser.

Originally Posted by Poodles

All you need to read to know CR is full of crap is what they say about the Jeep Wrangler and the shady business with the Suzuki Samurai.

[BRZfan]

".....and are taking a huge poo...." Another opinionated poster that includes human or animal excrement in his/her limited vocabulary. Another monthly visitor to their proctologist.

Originally Posted by SubaSteve

CR is only good for when you have no reading material and are taking a huge poo.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by R.S-HawK

Anyone who takes Consumer Reports seriously, when it comes to judging a sports car, needs to just buy a Camry.

People don't buy camry for sport car, and there are sport cars that have good Cr rating. But really, there are more than one criticism website, different authors, tests and all.

After all, buy what you need, want, like the most, it is your money, your ride, your to look at, and your to care for.

You don't get married to a women because she has good rating from friends and family. To male enthusiasts like us, cars are like our second wife. Probably similar to female enthusiasts with cars as their second husband

[Porsche]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

You don't get married to a women because she has good rating from friends and family.

Weeeell... That might actually work out better than the commonly accepted method.

To male enthusiasts like us, cars are like our second wife.

And some wives would like everyone to know that THEY are #2!

[DylanFRS]

Hahaha... so much hate on this forum when anything negative gets said about the 86... People on this forum remind of "Apple people". Too blinded by "perfection" to admit flaws, and this car (and the iPhone btw) has its share of flaws.

Consumer Reports is spot on. I would not recommend this car to the average consumer. I love it but I love it because I am willing to deal with its flaws as a compromise to everything else it gives me. The average consumer (i.e. people reading consumer reports) shouldn't buy this car.

I say good job to Consumer Reports for not getting too caught up in the 86-Fad and giving an honest review.

Consumer reports relies on feedback from consumers. So when they send out surveys and 75% of the people that have this car have taken it in for warranty work 3-4 times over the last year, it becomes an unreliable car.

P.S. Consumer reports are not allowed to accept money or products from the companies that they are reviewing. When they review 10 different dishwashers, they buy all 10 dishwashers at full price so that their reviews are only biased by the people reviewing them. How many other journalist outlets can claim that?

[feedbag]

The amount of cognitive dissonance in this forum is astounding.

CR says that the twins have a lot of issues. Instead of saying "yup, they sure do!", the entire forum decides to dump on CR. Ridiculous. Maybe they're not a magazine for enthusiasts, but they're not wrong either.

[R.S-HawK]

Originally Posted by feedbag

The amount of cognitive dissonance in this forum is astounding.

CR says that the twins have a lot of issues. Instead of saying "yup, they sure do!", the entire forum decides to dump on CR. Ridiculous. Maybe they're not a magazine for enthusiasts, but they're not wrong either.

You do realize they've basically labeled the car as completely unreliable? Which, regardless of this small annoyances that have presented themselves, is a complete lie.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by R.S-HawK

You do realize they've basically labeled the car as completely unreliable? Which, regardless of this small annoyances that have presented themselves, is a complete lie.

Exactly. There's some small annoyances that I know I've encountered so far, but that's to be expected with such a brand new car design. Give this a few years and the bugs will be worked out or so minor we'll be in WRX/STI territory for amount of tribal knowledge and tricks to making this car very trouble-free (so long as you don't abuse the engine more than it was designed to be for the kind of driving this car was meant to be used in).

[DylanFRS]

Originally Posted by R.S-HawK

You do realize they've basically labeled the car as completely unreliable? Which, regardless of this small annoyances that have presented themselves, is a complete lie.

You do realize that you may define reliability differently than the average consumer? Ask a non-car enthusiast if having your car in the shop for warranty work 4 times in the first year of ownership is considered reliable to them.

[kakarot1657]

I really don't care what they say I've had this car since the end of June I've been to the shop 0 times. I'm aware of the chirping and the condensation in the tail lights also hearing people who have been over correcting the steering and not trusting the cars ability to do itself. This weekend will be it's first time in the shop for maintenance. But what I don't want is 10 years from now these CR reviews causing my car a bad resale value just because of some bad reviews. If I wanted a car that does the driving and the thinking for me I'd get a Mercedes.

[ZXTT95]

Originally Posted by R.S-HawK

You do realize they've basically labeled the car as completely unreliable? Which, regardless of this small annoyances that have presented themselves, is a complete lie.

Umm, no, I think they've reported that according to their readers, in the case of the BRZ, there are more than twice as many things to complain about as the average car. Like it or not, these are BRZ owners checking boxes in a survey.

[dontpanic]

Not worried. They were probably a bit hasty in their dropping their version of the hammer on the twins...

True: the beginning of the run of BRZ/FR-S's had some issues. the end of the run for 2013 (July) is a different story (which is why we waited a bit)

CR also go all pouty about some of their fave beigemobiles from toyota. Their relevance and credibility are waning in a digital age where all the information needed to draw one's own conclusions is just a google away. Everyone knows that those with an axe to grind tend to be the ones to go off on web rants, the same holds true for surveys. responder bias.

MINIs are consistently among the least reliable conveyances in autodom yet people buy them as fast as they can cobble them together, drive them, and enjoy them...