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dsgerbc · 11-12-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mines13

I would bet on the 6MT simply because the supposed 2L engine and the mules. Fuel economy targets are going to be much easier to hit with a 6th "freeway gear"... We will know for sure this month either way.

I would bet on a Legacy 6MT. Which is bad news, given that it'd be replacing a mediocre 5MT. I'd pick a CVT from Forester XT over that 6MT.

OrbitalEllipses · 11-12-2013, 07:22 PM

:-O

mines13 · 11-12-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc

I would bet on a Legacy 6MT. Which is bad news, given that it'd be replacing a mediocre 5MT. I'd pick a CVT from Forester XT over that 6MT.

If we are really lucky maybe it will be an all new or at least heavily updated transmission to match the new engine.

adprokid · 11-13-2013, 06:42 AM

The BRZ looks small

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P_eKhfhuNU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P_eKhfhuNU[/ame]

Racecomp Engineering · 11-13-2013, 11:20 AM

I'm being maybe too optimistic asking for real diffs, but we did get a rear torsen from 02-07. That would be nice at the very least.

Also, I think Subaru knows that they need a 6 speed to be relevant at this point.

- Andy

infinite012 · 11-13-2013, 11:48 AM

What if they decide to slap in another gear on the 5 speed manual box they have now the same way they added the 5th gear to their 4 speed manual box of yore?

mines13 · 11-13-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

I'm being maybe too optimistic asking for real diffs, but we did get a rear torsen from 02-07. That would be nice at the very least.

Also, I think Subaru knows that they need a 6 speed to be relevant at this point.

- Andy

I thought only the rear diff in the STi models were Torsen and the normal WRX had viscous units in the rear. At least until they stopped offering them in the normal WRX trim, as I recently learned.

nalc · 11-13-2013, 01:05 PM

As lame as this sounds, I'm most excited to see what the fuel economy numbers look like with the smaller engine and lighter weight. Sure there's the AWD tax, but if it can pull high 20s, that's a big feather in its cap.

It seems like VW is stepping up things with the Mk7 Golf. AWD is a nice advantage, but if it comes down to a choice of cars with similar styling, similar utility, but one has AWD and perhaps somewhat more power but the other gets 5-10mpg better and has a nicer interior, it's going to come down to handling, which is something that the WRX isn't particularly known for, and which the MK7 is supposedly a drastic improvement over the Mk6.

mines13 · 11-13-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nalc

As lame as this sounds, I'm most excited to see what the fuel economy numbers look like with the smaller engine and lighter weight. Sure there's the AWD tax, but if it can pull high 20s, that's a big feather in its cap.

It seems like VW is stepping up things with the Mk7 Golf. AWD is a nice advantage, but if it comes down to a choice of cars with similar styling, similar utility, but one has AWD and perhaps somewhat more power but the other gets 5-10mpg better and has a nicer interior, it's going to come down to handling, which is something that the WRX isn't particularly known for, and which the MK7 is supposedly a drastic improvement over the Mk6.

Well said, I like to see that they are bench marking the BRZ for driving dynamics. Granted the AWD will likely numb the steering a bit, but at least they are trying to provide a higher standard of driver involvement. The electronic power steering in the BRZ/FR-S is pretty excellent, and with the new DIT 2L engine with it's lower CG packaging, there is a ton of potential for them to make something more special then the status quo... Heck the new generation Impreza dropped over 160lbs over the previous equivalent model, (what the new WRX appears to be based on) that is a pretty big deal and bodes well, regardless of how one feels about the styling.

Racecomp Engineering · 11-13-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mines13

I thought only the rear diff in the STi models were Torsen and the normal WRX had viscous units in the rear. At least until they stopped offering them in the normal WRX trim, as I recently learned.

Derp, I was in BRZ mode. Yes it's a viscous for the older WRX.

- Andy

OrbitalEllipses · 11-13-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite012

What if they decide to slap in another gear on the 5 speed manual box they have now the same way they added the 5th gear to their 4 speed manual box of yore?

I thought that was what the Legacy 6MT was, at least for a while?

infinite012 · 11-13-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I thought that was what the Legacy 6MT was, at least for a while?

I'm not too familiar with the transmission in the Legacy. I always assumed the Legacy 6MT was the STI 6MT.

OrbitalEllipses · 11-13-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite012

I'm not too familiar with the transmission in the Legacy. I always assumed the Legacy 6MT was the STI 6MT.

Not even close, I know that for a fact. The STI is the only car with that beefy 6MT.

daiheadjai · 11-13-2013, 11:56 PM

Hmmm... needs more front overhang...

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nalc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 13 BRZ Limited 6MT GBS Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 415 Thanks: 181 Thanked 256 Times in 130 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	As lame as this sounds, I'm most excited to see what the fuel economy numbers look like with the smaller engine and lighter weight. Sure there's the AWD tax, but if it can pull high 20s, that's a big feather in its cap. It seems like VW is stepping up things with the Mk7 Golf. AWD is a nice advantage, but if it comes down to a choice of cars with similar styling, similar utility, but one has AWD and perhaps somewhat more power but the other gets 5-10mpg better and has a nicer interior, it's going to come down to handling, which is something that the WRX isn't particularly known for, and which the MK7 is supposedly a drastic improvement over the Mk6. __________________ *nalc How to make physical switches for your BRZ HU How to take apart your whole interior

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