STS Turbo Kit - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

HotRodPA · 11-06-2013, 06:20 AM

Hey Guys,

Came across this in my random internet shenanigans. I think I saw that someone posted about the idea of a remote turbo kit and even had done one on their own a while ago. Since I didn't see the STS kit in the Turbo Kit sticky, I figured I'd share.

http://ststurbo.com/project_brz.php

Anthony · 11-06-2013, 06:26 AM

Aside from weight distribution and novelty, what are the benefits? Seems like it would add complexity and material, which are negative attributes, in my opinion.

F1point4 · 11-06-2013, 06:44 AM

STS is showing their rear turbo BRZ at SEMA. I'll see if @Chris@Phastek and I can get them to talk about this kit and the benefits while we are here

504 · 11-06-2013, 06:47 AM

The most notable benefit I see is the significant under hood heat reduction and probably a cooler running turbo though with a charge pipe that long I imagine throttle response to be pretty much non existent and the overall extra weight added to the car makes the idea of rear mount turbo questionable

chiefshayan · 11-06-2013, 07:11 AM

One uneven road and POW..

xjohnx · 11-06-2013, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefshayan

One uneven road and POW..

That uneven road would hit your front bumper, under tray, oil pan and differential before it hit the turbo.

TIE Pilot · 11-06-2013, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotRodPA

Hey Guys,
Since I didn't see the STS kit in the Turbo Kit sticky, I figured I'd share.

http://ststurbo.com/project_brz.php

Not included in the OP but it was mentioned in thread STS is later doing twin turbo too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Aside from weight distribution and novelty, what are the benefits? Seems like it would add complexity and material, which are negative attributes, in my opinion.

This looks like a nice synopsis:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiske

A Remote mount turbo setup.

+ Doesn't crowd engine bay.
+ A bit less heat build up in the bay.
+ Weight in the back for better balance.
+ Less passenger noise.
+ Usually quicker to install.
+ Usually cheaper w/no need to turbo specific custom exhaust.
+ Usually cools down a lot faster and may not need a turbo timer.

- Move volume equally slightly slower throttle response (& more lag.)
- Longer the pipe usually means lower boost.
- Speed bump/pothole nightmare on stock/lowered cars.
- Easily prone to theft in my area.

never owned a remote setup but a friend while I was at school had a set up on his 05 GTO.

+Intercooler optional.

TIE Pilot · 11-06-2013, 08:24 AM

A couple of owners are SC + TC. My guess is this will be a good option to keep an unclutter engine bay.

rusty959 · 11-06-2013, 08:40 AM

Rear mount is something Ive always considered more for cars with big v8's stuffed under the hood that don't have room for FI. Luckily we don't have that problem.

Frostyman · 11-06-2013, 08:57 AM

I like the idea, but in my opinion, it has no practical value. Laggy turbo? Aint nobody got time for that.

jamesm · 11-06-2013, 09:57 AM

when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail...

this is a solution looking for a problem. sts builds rear mount kits for cars that can fit a turbo where it belongs. why?

TylerLieberman · 11-06-2013, 10:35 AM

I never understood the appeal of these systems. Piping that long will make the turbo take forever to spool. Just adds a bunch of extra complexity and weight.

Somebody should release a turbo kit that would utilize a V-mount setup.

frslee · 11-06-2013, 10:57 AM

Interesting design

empower-auto · 11-06-2013, 12:09 PM

I've always understood these kits to be good for 2 problems:

1. Cramped engine bay
2. Budget

And if you're only 1 for 2 ... you should save up.

HOWEVER

If you just want a street car that goes whoosh and is fast... the details probably won't bother you and this kit will be fine.

Serious about motorsports / racing? You're probably going to be looking elsewhere.

11-06-2013, 06:20 AM	#1
HotRodPA Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Midland, MI Posts: 26 Thanks: 29 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	STS Turbo Kit Hey Guys, Came across this in my random internet shenanigans. I think I saw that someone posted about the idea of a remote turbo kit and even had done one on their own a while ago. Since I didn't see the STS kit in the Turbo Kit sticky, I figured I'd share. http://ststurbo.com/project_brz.php

11-06-2013, 06:26 AM	#2
Anthony Weight Nazi Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 FRS -399lb, 11 335is, 05 Tiburon Location: Biloxi, MS / Gulf Coast 86 Posts: 3,702 Thanks: 5,009 Thanked 3,714 Times in 1,765 Posts Mentioned: 150 Post(s)	Aside from weight distribution and novelty, what are the benefits? Seems like it would add complexity and material, which are negative attributes, in my opinion. __________________ Build Thread \| The Venus Project \| Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy.

11-06-2013, 06:44 AM	#3
F1point4 Photo Specialist Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 DGM 6MT Location: Texas Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 587 Thanked 1,805 Times in 420 Posts Mentioned: 94 Post(s)	STS is showing their rear turbo BRZ at SEMA. I'll see if @Chris@Phastek and I can get them to talk about this kit and the benefits while we are here __________________ Lola - Toyota 86 6MT Dark Gray Metallic My 86 Flickr Set

11-06-2013, 08:24 AM	#8
TIE Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: TIE interceptor; BRZ13 Location: Miami Posts: 309 Thanks: 131 Thanked 132 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s)	A couple of owners are SC + TC. My guess is this will be a good option to keep an unclutter engine bay. __________________ "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you." Jeremy Clarkson

11-06-2013, 08:40 AM	#9
rusty959 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ limited Location: Indiana Posts: 366 Thanks: 98 Thanked 147 Times in 95 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s)	Rear mount is something Ive always considered more for cars with big v8's stuffed under the hood that don't have room for FI. Luckily we don't have that problem. __________________

11-06-2013, 06:47 AM	#4
504 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2014 86 GTS Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 168 Thanks: 131 Thanked 85 Times in 57 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	The most notable benefit I see is the significant under hood heat reduction and probably a cooler running turbo though with a charge pipe that long I imagine throttle response to be pretty much non existent and the overall extra weight added to the car makes the idea of rear mount turbo questionable

11-06-2013, 07:11 AM	#5
chiefshayan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 AT Firestorm FRS Location: Berkeley Posts: 433 Thanks: 185 Thanked 184 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	One uneven road and POW..

11-06-2013, 09:57 AM	#11
jamesm Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 1,166 Thanked 2,294 Times in 1,180 Posts Mentioned: 313 Post(s)	when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail... this is a solution looking for a problem. sts builds rear mount kits for cars that can fit a turbo where it belongs. why?

11-06-2013, 10:35 AM	#12
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,685 Thanks: 658 Thanked 3,363 Times in 1,584 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s)	I never understood the appeal of these systems. Piping that long will make the turbo take forever to spool. Just adds a bunch of extra complexity and weight. Somebody should release a turbo kit that would utilize a V-mount setup. __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

11-06-2013, 10:57 AM	#13
frslee Just drive it Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 13' FR-S Location: Maryland Posts: 1,122 Thanks: 97 Thanked 321 Times in 218 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	Interesting design

11-06-2013, 12:09 PM	#14
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s)	I've always understood these kits to be good for 2 problems: 1. Cramped engine bay 2. Budget And if you're only 1 for 2 ... you should save up. HOWEVER If you just want a street car that goes whoosh and is fast... the details probably won't bother you and this kit will be fine. Serious about motorsports / racing? You're probably going to be looking elsewhere. __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

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