Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

Had the additional idler pulley develop a squeak over the last few days. Car has about 7K miles on it with the SC. Pulled the pulley off and rebuilt it. Repacked it with wheel bearing grease. Bearings had minimal slop. Silent now. While I was in there I checked the throttle body for oil. No sign of any blow by, clean.

Here's some photos.

The PVC spews out significantly more air than the breather. That is why the throttle body stays clean as the PCV vents post-throttle body. When I removed the blower from the manifold there was about half a teaspoon of oil especially around the bypass "chamber".

Also...my rotors have scratches/scuff marks on them. Looks like the blower ate something small. Ill post pics.

[EAGLE5]

sw20kosh Why no e85? I'm really curious how it will do intercooled for with vs without e85.

[CK_Bladesmith]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

After 10 hrs of installation of the FA20club intercooler kit (was not a bolt on job) we strapped her down to the dyno and ran the non-intercooled tune to see what the intercooler does on its own.

Very dissappointed to see it lost about 15 whp. I am guessing this is due to there being a restriction now in the air stream. This data is contrary to what Bill has seen in the past. Maybe he can chime in here.

Loaded up @DeliciousTuning new ROM he made for me that added 5 degrees of timing and made 230 whp. This is very preliminary but I thought it would be interesting to show you guys what happens when you install this intercooler and how much whp 5 degrees of timing advance gave (30 whp). Will be working with Bill to polish the tune hoping to match or exceed innovate's results of 244 whp considering they didn't have a 70 mm pulley, header and exhaust....

Graph shows the non-intercooler tune vs. the advanced timing tune. Both runs on 91 with the intercooler installed.



Tach signal was having issues all night so we lost some data on some runs.

A 10 hour installation on the intercooler itself? Please elaborate on this.

[1010110]

Originally Posted by 1010110

...While I was back there I noticed the grey fitting on the back of the blower was leaking oil and appears to be stripped. I guess I'll be fixing that when I install my intercooler. :-p

I spoke with Adam at innovate (@mines13) about this issue. He was super helpful and great to talk to about all things innovate supercharger related. He said I had two issues here. First, the oil I'm seeing is a side effect of hard driving with a supercharger and lack of a catch can. Second, the grey fittings appear to have more play compared to when the supercharger was first installed probably due to heat cycling. Adam was more concerned about not having a catch can than the loose fitting. The loose fitting won't cause any major issues because it is pre-blower. So it looks like a catch can is in my future.

I'm thinking of replacing both grey fittings (breather and brake booster) with some sort of metal fitting. Has anybody already done this? If so, would you be willing to share the specs of these parts with me? Otherwise I will just take these parts to a local hardware store to find metal replacements when I install my intercooler.

[whataboutbob]

No bother at all.

It is the additional pulley that comes with the kit. The one where you can see the bearings is the "front" side of the bearing, the other is the "back" side.

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

Sorry to bother but I really have no idea what I am looking at? What pulley is that exactly? One from the stock motor or the innovate? Why in one picture there are some bearings or balls and the other looks like just a gasket?

so confused

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

After 10 hrs of installation

can you elaborate on this?

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

can you elaborate on this?

We ran into issue after issue basically.

The laninova core installed in about 1.5 hrs. Easy.

1. There were no instructions
2. The coolant lines were off. Spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to route the lines so we could use the supplied lines. Gave up after an hour and spent a lot of time driving to stores to find new fittings and coolant hose.
3. Needed to get 150 deg AN fittings because my robispec radiator makes mounting of the kits' heat exchanger difficult.
4. Reservoir is designed to install onto a stock battery. I have a light weight battery so we had to do some custom modification.
5. Wiring the pump was a DIY so had to route it into cabin and use a fuse tap to an ignition source.
6. Leaks. Had to re-clamp some of the perma crimp clamps on the coolant lines.

So it was more work than I thought. I would definitely plan on using up the better part of a day to install this kit. Things happen.

The quality of the components are top notch though! The reservoir is epic. Ill post pics later.

We were able to do back to back dyno runs and everything stayed within operating temps and no timing was pulled. I think we did a total of 7 pulls and usually we would have needed to let the car rest for 5 minutes to dissipate heat. Not this time. We just went for it. Testing it on the track tomorrow.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

sw20kosh Why no e85? I'm really curious how it will do intercooled for with vs without e85.

Yeah I'd love to see that too!

I ripped out my meth injection because I hated lugging around containers of water meth and having to top off every hour. I have seem people doing the same with E85 and I shudder at the thought of having to bring ~ 13 - 15 gal of E85 with me. Not to mention trying to find e85 around me or near the tracks.

Ill get flex fuel when there are at least stations within 15 to 20 miles of the tracks

[ft_sjo]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

We ran into issue after issue basically.

Apart from your self-imposed issue of running a different radiator/whatever, i'm amazed that someone appears to have taken the easy-to-install chargecooler kit from Sprintex and made it a PITA?

I took me less than half an hour to install the radiator, hoses and pump (I did this in advanced of the actual s/c install, so I wouldn't need a ramp/pit to finish the install). Then when doing the s/c install, installing the heat exchanger only took a minute due to the s/c being off the car, the wiring for the pump was 2 minute job once the rest of the engine was apart (Sprintex supply a y-lead to power the pump from one of the fuel injector plugs {wouldn't have been my first choice, but I went with it}).

[Calum]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Sprintex supply a y-lead to power the pump from one of the fuel injector plugs {wouldn't have been my first choice, but I went with it}.

Um, wow. Not what I was expecting. I patiently wait your reliability review of this. I'd hate to see someone replace an ECU because the injector driver circuit was over drawn. Does this Y adapter power a relay, or the pump itself?

[ft_sjo]

Originally Posted by Calum

Um, wow. Not what I was expecting. I patiently wait your reliability review of this. I'd hate to see someone replace an ECU because the injector driver circuit was over drawn. Does this Y adapter power a relay, or the pump itself?

The pump. It's rated at < 2 amps. It's tiny, should not be a concern for the ECU.

[vgi]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Apart from your self-imposed issue of running a different radiator/whatever, i'm amazed that someone appears to have taken the easy-to-install chargecooler kit from Sprintex and made it a PITA?

I took me less than half an hour to install the radiator, hoses and pump (I did this in advanced of the actual s/c install, so I wouldn't need a ramp/pit to finish the install). Then when doing the s/c install, installing the heat exchanger only took a minute due to the s/c being off the car, the wiring for the pump was 2 minute job once the rest of the engine was apart (Sprintex supply a y-lead to power the pump from one of the fuel injector plugs {wouldn't have been my first choice, but I went with it}).

not sure if there is any difference (detailed instructions, supplied hardware, etc) but sw20kosh did say he was installing FA20club intercooler kit

[Mr. Jack]

After 96 page I don't understand the difference between the 70mm or 75mm pulley?
you need to change all the pulley?
someone mount the 70mm and someone the 75...?

[cantholdanymore]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jack

After 96 page I don't understand the difference between the 70mm or 75mm pulley?
you need to change all the pulley?
someone mount the 70mm and someone the 75...?

75mm is the stock pulley. What more power? swap for the 70mm