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[Kelbyat07]

lol maybe we should create a thread about jobs

[wallace03]

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07

lol maybe we should create a thread about jobs

lol yea i didn't mean to derail his topic :P i just posted what i was feeling when i read it.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by wallace03

What exactly is computer engineering, Do you build circuits? and what degree does wireless communication fall under? You're correct, Gas and energy company is where the money always is.

Generally, it's when you use software to make electronic hardware do what you want it to do. I used to develop the code that would be programmed into integrated circuits used in switches and routers. Wireless engineering falls under electrical/electronics engineering which is what I studied.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by wallace03

What exactly is computer engineering, Do you build circuits? and what degree does wireless communication fall under? You're correct, Gas and energy company is where the money always is.



Have you tried applying out of puerto rico?

I want to apply here... its possible I could land a job in the states... but its not something I want

[soundman98]

ima gonna leave this right here..(start at 10:47, it's a long-winded introduction)

[ame]http://youtu.be/8DDJA4v0bk0?t=10m47s[/ame]

[ZionsWrath]

Wow, didn;t know Mike Rowe was such a good speaker

[muffinz]

Just chiming in here...

I have:

bachelor degree in mechanical engineering (from a top ranked non-ivy league school)

masters degree in engineering management from the same school (think of it as a technical MBA. applicable to systems engineers / bigproblem solving)

graduate certificate in financial engineering also from same school (programming & insane math for application in finance)

Basically my strategy was as follows:

My older bro was an engineer and so is my dad....so I entered college as an undecided engineering major. I then figured out that I love cars...so I went with a mechanical engineering major with a concentration in automotive engineering.

THENNNNNNNN once I finished my undergrad my dad was all like "YOU NEED TO GO TO GRAD SCHOOL RIGHT MEOW" so I did...but I didn't really know what I wanted to do. I knew I didn't want to be a design engineer bc all my friends did it and they hated it. So at this point I figured...why not do something that will make me more appealing for a management role? So I found that my undergrad school had an engineering management graduate degree that I would get a shweet scholarship for.

At the same time I was applying, a good friend of mine got me interested in the finance industry. So I figured, why take bullshit electives during my grad career and instead I'll take a preset selection of courses to get a "graduate certificate" in financial engineering. I'm not sure if it holds any weight to someone like Goldman Sachs, but I at least can use what I learned to manage my own personal portfolio.

Additionally, I was working full time during my grad school years...in a different state. That was rough lol.

SO basically what I have done w/ college is try to make myself flexible, appealing, and diversified. I went from being a HVAC Control System engineer to a Business analyst during my grad school...and I'm now getting calls from financial firms because they love engineers (we're awesome problem solvers )

THAT IS ALLLLLLLLLLL

hope it helps any of you confused children out there. I do agree that young kids are screwed if they choose the wrong major, but I also contend that half the people that go to college really don't need to / shouldn't. Yeah you'll have a blast, but is it worth the $100k in debt that you'll spend the rest of your life paying off?

Cheers

[Luis_GT]

Funny... I'm thinking of doing a Masters in engineering management... lol...

[sklimo]

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by muffinz

Advice:

NEVER EVER EVER EEVVVERRRRR stop applying to jobs

likewise, never stop looking for new opportunities

FURTHERMORE

NETWORKING NETWORKING NETWORKING

and finally

don't expect anything to be given to you EVERRRRRRRR. take it / earn it / deserve it

thanks for the rhetoric advice, poster boy for our decaying economy and social structure..


1. part-time, highly cyclical, highly volotile, contract only jobs are on the rise. People are forced to start looking for jobs the moment they find one just to stay above water.
often time the job that is found requires long commutes. Usually if people find a secure job they move to be closer. But with the current housing crisis moving is almost impossible so people either waste 2-4 hours PER DAY commuting to and from work.

that's batshit insane

it's stressful and it hurts the overall well being of a family trying to settle roots.

why is it that you don't care about job stability anymore is beyond me



2. Creating strong bonds is important for a healthy lifestyle. Creating unrealistically large networks of feux-friends and aquaintances is a meaningless excercise in masturbation and has, in my opinion, eroded the very core of what building trust and friendship is all about.
Ohh, we had coffee and a small conversation on the shittiness of the carpets at that gathering three years ago, right, now you want me to help you get a contract in this huge business deal cuz we're buddy buddy? FUCK YOU (not you you, but the buddy buddy)

This whole "NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK" bullshit is what perpetuates the "not what you know but who you know" mentality. This whole network model rewards mouthy blablercaunts that like to stick their 10 shoes into 20 doors at a time.

Tell me this, why is it that you mention NETWORK 3 times but don't bother mentioning aptitude and skill?

3. In theory yes.. but in reality... our society has promised a whole generation that "IF YOU STUDY HARD AND GET GOOD GRADES YOU"LL HAVE THIS BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF YOU", well guess what, many people have worked hard and studied hard and got the grades and got the diplomas but NO FUCKING JOBS.
the SYSTEM promised our generation JOBS, we demand them, and we should not be berated for our demanding because we were literally promised them. So excuse our frustration when the whole fucking economy is going down the drain and the vast majority of us are forced to do something we don't even want to do.

[muffinz]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

thanks for the rhetoric advice, poster boy for our decaying economy and social structure..


1. part-time, highly cyclical, highly volotile, contract only jobs are on the rise. People are forced to start looking for jobs the moment they find one just to stay above water.
often time the job that is found requires long commutes. Usually if people find a secure job they move to be closer. But with the current housing crisis moving is almost impossible so people either waste 2-4 hours PER DAY commuting to and from work.

that's batshit insane

it's stressful and it hurts the overall well being of a family trying to settle roots.

why is it that you don't care about job stability anymore is beyond me



2. Creating strong bonds is important for a healthy lifestyle. Creating unrealistically large networks of feux-friends and aquaintances is a meaningless excercise in masturbation and has, in my opinion, eroded the very core of what building trust and friendship is all about.
Ohh, we had coffee and a small conversation on the shittiness of the carpets at that gathering three years ago, right, now you want me to help you get a contract in this huge business deal cuz we're buddy buddy? FUCK YOU (not you you, but the buddy buddy)

This whole "NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK" bullshit is what perpetuates the "not what you know but who you know" mentality. This whole network model rewards mouthy blablercaunts that like to stick their 10 shoes into 20 doors at a time.

Tell me this, why is it that you mention NETWORK 3 times but don't bother mentioning aptitude and skill?

3. In theory yes.. but in reality... our society has promised a whole generation that "IF YOU STUDY HARD AND GET GOOD GRADES YOU"LL HAVE THIS BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF YOU", well guess what, many people have worked hard and studied hard and got the grades and got the diplomas but NO FUCKING JOBS.
the SYSTEM promised our generation JOBS, we demand them, and we should not be berated for our demanding because we were literally promised them. So excuse our frustration when the whole fucking economy is going down the drain and the vast majority of us are forced to do something we don't even want to do.

Hey man I'm just offering advice based on what I have learned from my experiences. You need to adapt to the times and not live in a false dream world with unrealistic expectations.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by muffinz

Hey man I'm just offering advice based on what I have learned from my experiences. You need to adapt to the times and not live in a false dream world with unrealistic expectations.

unrealstic false dreams

and i thought i was a pessimist

i'm sorry you feel that it's okay for the civilized world to remain a dog-eat-dog arena


like i said, those with your mentality only perpetuate the problem and offer nothing to the solution. So long as you get the riches, right? You don't even see the things i said a problem. They are a non issue to those like you. NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK, SWITCH JOBS FOR MORE MONEY, BAIL AT FIRST SIGHT OF TROUBLE.

can't you see that such a system is not self sustaining by default?

[muffinz]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

unrealstic false dreams

and i thought i was a pessimist

i'm sorry you feel that it's okay for the civilized world to remain a dog-eat-dog arena


like i said, those with your mentality only perpetuate the problem and offer nothing to the solution. So long as you get the riches, right? You don't even see the things i said a problem. They are a non issue to those like you. NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK, SWITCH JOBS FOR MORE MONEY, BAIL AT FIRST SIGHT OF TROUBLE.

can't you see that such a system is not self sustaining by default?

So what am I supposed to do? Sit on the sidelines and suffer because of the way things are? No thanks.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by muffinz

So what am I supposed to do? Sit on the sidelines and suffer because of the way things are? No thanks.

No, you sympathize, understand what's wrong with the system in place now and do your best to make it better. Just because it worked out for you doesn't mean it's 'ok' to keep the status quo.

Don't hire friends, vote in a way that doesn't support corporations and the trickle up economy and stay aware of the world around you.