Frs vs s2000 - Page 59 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ZDan · 10-24-2013, 02:54 PM

Also worth mentioning: 54/46 weight distribution is a much bigger handicap at 400hp than at 200hp.

CSG Mike · 10-24-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Mike FTW!

I might also add an upgraded diff is usually part of the equation but that's independent of the engine.

I've also seen S2k's make ~400hp on 92 octane reliably. Something I don't think we'll EVER see the FRS do.

That dyno I posted is a California 91 (aka pisswater) tune. :faint:

AyJay · 10-24-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hmong337

And the 2JZ was "engineered" for 280-320hp. That doesn't stop people from making 600hp+ with them. Same with the F20C and K20 motors. People push them daily at double the horsepower without a hiccup all while still being balanced.

I guess you're one of the butthurt ones that ended up being looked down upon because your shit is stock?

That's just ridiculous that you'd even mention such a stigma.

This thread is FRS vs S2000. If you've got a problem with peoples opinions... why bother posting?!

Both cars are great, both will win. Obviously stock vs stock, the S2K wins. But everybody knows the FRS needs a turbo. That's where the 400hp vs 400hp example sets in. It's a toss up.

Why so butthurt?

Wow, don't be that guy.

Your opinion is awesome. 400hp will make your FR-S or S2000 the the bees knees! Especially at the track! The best part is your FR-S/S2k will be dead reliable session after session since the 2JZ is and the K20 is (not really).

CSG David · 10-24-2013, 03:41 PM

I gave our AE86 friend a farewell gift (moved back to Europe) by letting him drive my car on track. This is a Rotrex supercharger unit on my car. He didn't quite know it was supercharged because he ripped through a 2 gear burnout before realizing it was possibly boosted. Behold the fun!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfqf1js_6Y"]Supercharged S2000 at Streets of Willow CCW - YouTube[/ame]

tinma · 10-24-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

I gave our AE86 friend a farewell gift (moved back to Europe) by letting him drive my car on track. This is a Rotrex supercharger unit on my car. He didn't quite know it was supercharged because he ripped through a 2 gear burnout before realizing it was possibly boosted. Behold the fun!

"oh shit this has power!"

rice_classic · 10-24-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

That dyno I posted is a California 91 (aka pisswater) tune. :faint:

Now, can you get 275s on 10" wheels on the back of it?

CSG Mike · 10-24-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Now, can you get 275s on 10" wheels on the back of it?

Yes... we may have already tested setups like that... with 10" wheels in the front too...

CSG Mike · 10-24-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tinma

"oh shit this has power!"

David's car is on a OE clutch.

CSG David · 10-24-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

David's car is on a OE clutch.

Detuned to 380hp and 250ft-lb torque so the clutch won't slip @ 55% throttle from 6k to 8.2k...ROFL

aCab · 10-24-2013, 06:00 PM

Keep in mine the s2000 mods have 10+ years of possible development / experience at this point. The twins have what, a year and a half tops? If you look at early S2000 supercharger kits (at least from my memory), the power wasn't as impressive as the newer kits.

CSG Mike · 10-24-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aCab

Keep in mine the s2000 mods have 10+ years of possible development / experience at this point. The twins have what, a year and a half tops? If you look at early S2000 supercharger kits (at least from my memory), the power wasn't as impressive as the newer kits.

True, but the blowers were different back then. The same blowers used on the current S2000 kits are also being used on the FRS/BRZ.

Anthonytpt · 10-24-2013, 08:04 PM

I wish I experienced this back in May at WSIR. T_T

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Originally Posted by CSG David

Detuned to 380hp and 250ft-lb torque so the clutch won't slip @ 55% throttle from 6k to 8.2k...ROFL

CSG Mike · 10-24-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthonytpt

I wish I experienced this back in May at WSIR. T_T

Experience vicariously through this video

kcam86 · 10-24-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Experience vicariously through this video

I'm curious how motortrend came up with a laptime of 1:30 on a stock brz at willow. I smell some fluffed numbers on their part

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