The Drifting Thread

[Ryaquinn]

Did your CEL show at all. This has only happened while drifting at the track, but no CEL has come up like the last time.

Originally Posted by shiro

Yes, I've had exactly that issue two weeks ago. With out a doubt I'd bring it in. I had my engine lock up last week and I'm paying the bill since Toyota isn't going to warranty a turbo'd engine. This could be related to the rough idle and camshaft issue. Best of luck.

[TylerLieberman]

Had this happen to me after my last event. Went home, disconnected battery, took off steering wheel and made sure all plugs and clockspring assembly was good, re assembled and it was gone.

Note: I have an aftermarket wheel & hub

[Ryaquinn]

I figure it may just be some glitch from bouncing rev limiter. Thanks for replies

[executivekoala]

I shed a bro tear today... Irwindale is gonna close

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[shiro]

No, my CEL light did not come on for drifting or rough driving. I had the light come one multiple times while the car was idling in a parking lot. The best thing for you to do is bring your car into your Scion dealer and have them pull your codes. Also, you should ask for the codes too. My dealership kind of failed me since they were pretty clueless on the current car issues.

Originally Posted by Ryaquinn

Did your CEL show at all. This has only happened while drifting at the track, but no CEL has come up like the last time.

[JordanWho]

Here's a few snaps and a short vid from a recent drift event I entered. It was only the third time I've drifted the car on the track but it performed really well despite the lack of HP. Definitely want a turbo or supercharger now. Currently researching options as I don't want to lose the reliability factor.

Only downer to the weekend was getting hit in the rear by someone doing the wrong thing. I was devastated. Lucky it's only the rear bumper that need to be replaced. On a positive note, I think the car looks pretty badass with a few battle wounds. At least know one can call me a hard parker anymore...

Would love any tips or advice from any of the more advanced 86 drifters in this thread. I'm still very new to the sport as this is my first RWD car.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlKrhzhpLT4"]Toyota 86 drifting @ Queensland Raceway - YouTube[/ame]

[Ryaquinn]

Looks good. You could totally initiate third gear on that first turn, looks like you came out of it a little bit early. You have all the right suspension pieces but I would recommend raising the front up. Nomura just did a video recently where he talked about how the rake from the front has helped take away all that over grip in transitions. Good luck and nice car

[TylerLieberman]

^^This.

Reverse rake works amazing.

EDIT:

After watching the video, I noticed a few things.

First few corners can be done in third. You don't have to be in the top of third but kicking the clutch in third will yield better results than pulling the handbrake in second. The higher speed will give you the momentum you need to clear the first few corners.

When exiting a corner at higher angle, don't just cut the throttle. Doing it can cause instances where you start swinging back and forth and it'll keep happening so long as you keep overcorrecting. Best thing to do is ROLL off throttle or stay in throttle as you feed the wheel to the centered position.

Not bad at all for only your third time though. Looks like you're picking up really well. You'll only get better with every event keep it up!

[JordanWho]

Originally Posted by Ryaquinn

Looks good. You could totally initiate third gear on that first turn, looks like you came out of it a little bit early. You have all the right suspension pieces but I would recommend raising the front up. Nomura just did a video recently where he talked about how the rake from the front has helped take away all that over grip in transitions.

Thanks for your reply.

Can you possibly throw up a link to that video?

Originally Posted by Ryaquinn

Good luck and nice car

Thanks dude!

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Reverse rake works amazing.

When you guys talk about reverse rake, do you mean raise my front coils so it's slightly higher at the front than the rear?

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

After watching the video, I noticed a few things.

First few corners can be done in third. You don't have to be in the top of third but kicking the clutch in third will yield better results than pulling the handbrake in second. The higher speed will give you the momentum you need to clear the first few corners.

Yeah I experimented with some third gear hand brake entries over that weekend. The issue I was having was every time I entered a corner I was washing off too much speed/revs and I ended up bogging down. The only way I could get around it was to enter the corner at say 100 or 110 so after hand braking I still had the revs up in the range you need them to spin the tyres.

This method was both good and bad. It was good when you got the entry right because you could definitely hold the drift for much longer and it felt a lot easier on the car.

However if you messed up the entry or run out of lock, which as we all know is very easy in these cars, you're coming off the track sideways at 90 in a brand new, heavily lowered car. For me that was zero funs.

I didn't ever think to initiatevia a clutch kick? I would do them here and there to spike the revs up but never as an entry method.

I know it depends on the corner but what sort of speed/revs are you taking corners in third with a clutch kick entry?

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

When exiting a corner at higher angle, don't just cut the throttle. Doing it can cause instances where you start swinging back and forth and it'll keep happening so long as you keep overcorrecting. Best thing to do is ROLL off throttle or stay in throttle as you feed the wheel to the centered position.

Yeah this is something I really need to practice. Should come a bit easier as I get more time on the track.

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Not bad at all for only your third time though. Looks like you're picking up really well. You'll only get better with every event keep it up!

Thanks a lot. Appreciate all your advice!

[DarkCard]

Question for you guys, I'm fairly new as well. Im getting alot better modulating my throttle control where I can hold a slide in a circle, when I try to make a transition from say a left to right Im snapping the car too hard and ultimately spin out. How can I fix this?

[Ryaquinn]

Originally Posted by DarkCard

Question for you guys, I'm fairly new as well. Im getting alot better modulating my throttle control where I can hold a slide in a circle, when I try to make a transition from say a left to right Im snapping the car too hard and ultimately spin out. How can I fix this?

Seat time is always the best advice. But, practice your circles around the cone left foot braking to tighten the radius. Then try driving into the circles around the cone. Get up some speed, maybe 20-30 in first gear and initiate handbrake into doing your circles to learn scrubbing speed while at angle. These two practices will help you get a good feel of what the car is doing. Then, try both in the opposite direction off your passenger door. Finish with figure eights and you should get the transitions down.

[TylerLieberman]

Yes reverie rake is having the front higher than the rear. Clutch kick works best of initiating in my opinion. It won't scrub your speed like handbrake does. If the first corner is a 90 degree turn or a hairpin and you have a good amoun of run up, I would use handbrake on the straight coming up to the corner to set the angle.

Anything between like 50-75mph, I initiate 3rd. Higher or lower uses different gear. You want mid 3rd for clutch kick. If you're redline in 3rd and you're gonna clutchkick, I would just upshift again and then handbrake in 4th and drop down to 3rd

Originally Posted by JordanWho

Thanks for your reply.

Can you possibly throw up a link to that video?



Thanks dude!




When you guys talk about reverse rake, do you mean raise my front coils so it's slightly higher at the front than the rear?



Yeah I experimented with some third gear hand brake entries over that weekend. The issue I was having was every time I entered a corner I was washing off too much speed/revs and I ended up bogging down. The only way I could get around it was to enter the corner at say 100 or 110 so after hand braking I still had the revs up in the range you need them to spin the tyres.

This method was both good and bad. It was good when you got the entry right because you could definitely hold the drift for much longer and it felt a lot easier on the car.

However if you messed up the entry or run out of lock, which as we all know is very easy in these cars, you're coming off the track sideways at 90 in a brand new, heavily lowered car. For me that was zero funs.

I didn't ever think to initiatevia a clutch kick? I would do them here and there to spike the revs up but never as an entry method.

I know it depends on the corner but what sort of speed/revs are you taking corners in third with a clutch kick entry?



Yeah this is something I really need to practice. Should come a bit easier as I get more time on the track.



Thanks a lot. Appreciate all your advice!

[Ryaquinn]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Had this happen to me after my last event. Went home, disconnected battery, took off steering wheel and made sure all plugs and clockspring assembly was good, re assembled and it was gone.

Note: I have an aftermarket wheel & hub

Referencing the pedal dance thread. I think mine might be contributed to the "ice mode". A couple of occasions on a spinout I have had bad ice mode and needed the ebrake to stop the car. Thinking about the two times I have seen the lights come on it was after a spinout which would make sense. Are you pulling your abs plug for events?

[TylerLieberman]

Nope. The first two events I did with just holding the traction control button. The most recent event though had a course that I benefit from with some left foot braking. I decided to do the pedal dance that time and it worked really well.

I think I'm just gonna pull the fuze next time and see how it goes