FRS/BRZ vs Mazda RX8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SuperGTS · 09-29-2013, 02:42 AM

FRS or BRZ versus Mazda RX8...
Or I guess you could say... Boxer versus Rotary...

and GO!

lavisxice · 09-29-2013, 02:53 AM

rotary's have a smoother pull to red line really constant
-gas is horrible

Kelbyat07 · 09-29-2013, 03:57 AM

Drove my friend's RX-8 and it feels really nice. The handling isn't as good as the twins but overall it feels sporty.

chulooz · 09-29-2013, 10:52 AM

There is already a chubby thread on this... GO!

dsgerbc · 09-29-2013, 11:49 PM

Did you really think you're the first to bring up this comparison?
Jeez...

n2oinferno · 09-30-2013, 09:19 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35382
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19227

thill · 09-30-2013, 05:07 PM

Cliff notes:
- RX-8 has the rotary engine. Like it or hate, for every rotary that goes 100K miles there are two that don't make it to 50K miles.
- Having owned 3 RX-7's you have to be prepared to feed these engines oil constantly. Especially if you drive them hard.
- Gas mileage is really poor for a lightweight sub 300hp car compared to the competition.
- Better legroom in the RX8 for the rear passengers. Although, let's be honest, if you plan on driving with people in the back a lot in either of these cars, get a hatchback.
- Personally I find the RX8 styling to be all over the place on the exterior. While it is not unattractive, I personally don't love it either.

Both are great handling cars that are a blast to drive. When the RX8 was first released, I had my name on a waiting list and was ready to pay cash for one.. I test drove it.. I just did not love it for many of the reasons mentioned above.

klittl06 · 10-06-2013, 09:15 PM

I've owned an Rx8 in the past and I loved it. I definitely pulled stronger throughout the powerband and got terrible gas mileage. Rx8 handled great but the 86 feels better; although, the 4 doors on the Rx8 was very handy.

I sold it to a friend and he had the motor replaced under warranty around 90k.

thill · 10-06-2013, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klittl06

I've owned an Rx8 in the past and I loved it. I definitely pulled stronger throughout the powerband and got terrible gas mileage. Rx8 handled great but the 86 feels better; although, the 4 doors on the Rx8 was very handy.

I sold it to a friend and he had the motor replaced under warranty around 90k.

Yes, Mazda did extend the warranty on the engine and they are pretty good about taking care of you.

I never liked the four door concept on a sports car. It just feels wrong. But there is no question the RX-8 is much better suited to actually fit real adults in the backseat.

Wolfking · 10-06-2013, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

I never liked the four door concept on a sports car. It just feels wrong...

I sold the RX8 when it was first released. I originally felt the same way, but then I opened my mind to a new concept... Free your mind and engineering has no bounds!

utekineir · 10-07-2013, 10:00 AM

my sister had an automatic one a handful of years ago, several times it needed a dealer tow because it wasnt shut off right or something (apparently this was corrected at some point?)

the best thing she ever did with the car was put it into a tree.

not that they don't have a purpose, just was absolutely retarded and inapropriate for her.

Hanni_0176 · 10-07-2013, 10:25 AM

Gas mileage was one of the primary reasons why I got the FR-S. The fact that the RX-8 gets horrible mileage is a deal breaker for me. If I was going to get a gas hog, I'd much rather get something with far more hp/tq.

A friend of mine has an RX-8. In terms of everything else, styling/handling/etc, I think the RX-8 is a great car.

6speed_Sam · 10-07-2013, 10:18 PM

I like them. Got to race an m/t a couple of times before my header and Unichip.

kALMIGHTY · 10-07-2013, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utekineir

my sister had an automatic one a handful of years ago, several times it needed a dealer tow because it wasnt shut off right or something (apparently this was corrected at some point?)

the best thing she ever did with the car was put it into a tree.

not that they don't have a purpose, just was absolutely retarded and inapropriate for her.

Yeah my friend had an RX-8 and the same thing happened to him. What happened is that if you turned the car on and turned it back off without letting the engine COMPLETELY warm up, the engine would flood and it was pretty much toast.
He got it fixed and then a month later, his car was caught in bad weather while parked outside at his work at the bottom of a hill and his entire car flooded this time haha. Needless to say he's moved on from the RX-8's now.
I still love them though and if they come out with the improved rotary, I might even think about trading in the FR-S if I haven't gone FI by then.

09-29-2013, 02:53 AM	#2
lavisxice Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 140 Thanks: 106 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	rotary's have a smoother pull to red line really constant -gas is horrible __________________ 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ Sport-Tech -TRD intake -Perrin 2.5 inch cat-back exhaust

09-29-2013, 03:57 AM	#3
Kelbyat07 Poor College Kid Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: ~.~ Location: Chicago Posts: 2,801 Thanks: 246 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Drove my friend's RX-8 and it feels really nice. The handling isn't as good as the twins but overall it feels sporty. __________________

10-07-2013, 10:18 PM	#13
6speed_Sam Thumper Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 250 Thanks: 97 Thanked 59 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like them. Got to race an m/t a couple of times before my header and Unichip. __________________ Car is gone - parts for sale

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thill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner) Location: North Pole Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 328 Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cliff notes: - RX-8 has the rotary engine. Like it or hate, for every rotary that goes 100K miles there are two that don't make it to 50K miles. - Having owned 3 RX-7's you have to be prepared to feed these engines oil constantly. Especially if you drive them hard. - Gas mileage is really poor for a lightweight sub 300hp car compared to the competition. - Better legroom in the RX8 for the rear passengers. Although, let's be honest, if you plan on driving with people in the back a lot in either of these cars, get a hatchback. - Personally I find the RX8 styling to be all over the place on the exterior. While it is not unattractive, I personally don't love it either. Both are great handling cars that are a blast to drive. When the RX8 was first released, I had my name on a waiting list and was ready to pay cash for one.. I test drove it.. I just did not love it for many of the reasons mentioned above.

10-06-2013, 09:15 PM	#8
klittl06 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: FRS? Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 163 Thanks: 8 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've owned an Rx8 in the past and I loved it. I definitely pulled stronger throughout the powerband and got terrible gas mileage. Rx8 handled great but the 86 feels better; although, the 4 doors on the Rx8 was very handy. I sold it to a friend and he had the motor replaced under warranty around 90k.

10-07-2013, 10:00 AM	#11
utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	my sister had an automatic one a handful of years ago, several times it needed a dealer tow because it wasnt shut off right or something (apparently this was corrected at some point?) the best thing she ever did with the car was put it into a tree. not that they don't have a purpose, just was absolutely retarded and inapropriate for her.

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Hanni_0176 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S 10 Series MT Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 339 Thanks: 115 Thanked 231 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Gas mileage was one of the primary reasons why I got the FR-S. The fact that the RX-8 gets horrible mileage is a deal breaker for me. If I was going to get a gas hog, I'd much rather get something with far more hp/tq. A friend of mine has an RX-8. In terms of everything else, styling/handling/etc, I think the RX-8 is a great car.

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