New 276hp Civic type R vs FRS/BRZ - Page 6 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

n2oinferno · 09-20-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisIsChrisKim

About the same price as the Twins or around what a Focus ST and Mazdapseed 3 go for. They're all in the same mid-high 20's range.

Yup, this. Hot hatch mid-20s range.

Steve201brz · 09-20-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

this has stopped being about the cars or even being rational. by the way, if you want to criticize me for not using punctuation, it would help if you could at least end your post with a period.

i never understood the big deal about punctuation on a forum. this isn't some formal paper or proposal i'm handing to my boss or the government haha. maybe i should start texting with correct punctuation... if you wan't spellcheck your post go for it but who really cares haha

i wouldn't want to see a sticker price more than 30k for it tho...i feel that's prob the most they'd be able to get away with

Razz · 09-20-2013, 02:45 PM

Since it is Euro Spec.... USA won't get it.

Maybe in 2016????

dnieves · 09-28-2013, 09:37 AM

All of this is fine and dandy for Europe but what is the US market going to get stuck with? Since 2006 US Civics have looks better than their European counterparts but the still cheap out on performance and features even Elantras provide. At least Akio Toyoda has passion and wants to make cars other than the (boring) Camry. Honda has lost its way and with the debacle of following the bean counters using cheap interiors in their 12 models to save $$ then having to be upgraded the following year.

Mikem53 · 09-30-2013, 12:27 PM

Will this be another great Honda motor looking for a descent chassis?

AsianStyle · 09-30-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikem53

Will this be another great Honda motor looking for a descent chassis?

Chassis and drivetrain?

The last i4 turbo I remember Honda doing was in the RDX. Wasn't too impressed due to the poor mpg vs. power output. I'm sure the 2ton weight had something to do with the poor mpg, but at the time the n/a v6 in the MDX had the same mpg and better power output in a heavier car.

DoomsdayJesus · 10-01-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobidude

I'd rather wait for the 2015 wrx or the new srt4

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I was coming in to say this. The SRT-4 Dart should be pretty beastly if they stick with the powertrain or power goals of the caliber SRT-4, which was an ugly, top-heavy beast strapped to a great powertrain. I loved my Neon-SRT-4, that thing would get low 13s in the 1/4mi before I tuned it to over 300hp, and driving it for a year an a half on the Autobahn where it topped out at 159MPH stock while driving rock-steady was more fun than you can imagine. I'd still prefer the WRX though.

Celica00 · 10-01-2013, 07:20 PM

bring out a coupe version and we'll talk

fooyc · 10-01-2013, 10:04 PM

not sure this ver will be the same as the coming JDM ver? sure like to see how it pit vs the Euro hothatch...

As over here the K20A is still stronger then our FA20.

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09-20-2013, 02:45 PM	#73
Razz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Fast Location: United States Posts: 480 Thanks: 64 Thanked 101 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Since it is Euro Spec.... USA won't get it. Maybe in 2016????

09-28-2013, 09:37 AM	#74
dnieves Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: FR-S 10 Series Location: NY Posts: 1,062 Thanks: 615 Thanked 347 Times in 251 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	All of this is fine and dandy for Europe but what is the US market going to get stuck with? Since 2006 US Civics have looks better than their European counterparts but the still cheap out on performance and features even Elantras provide. At least Akio Toyoda has passion and wants to make cars other than the (boring) Camry. Honda has lost its way and with the debacle of following the bean counters using cheap interiors in their 12 models to save $$ then having to be upgraded the following year.

09-30-2013, 12:27 PM	#75
Mikem53 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: FR-S 6MT Location: Somewhere in Space Posts: 1,565 Thanks: 500 Thanked 882 Times in 433 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Will this be another great Honda motor looking for a descent chassis?

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Celica00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 86 Location: utah Posts: 1,156 Thanks: 842 Thanked 798 Times in 434 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	bring out a coupe version and we'll talk

10-01-2013, 10:04 PM	#79
fooyc Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: GT86-JDM Location: MY Posts: 54 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	not sure this ver will be the same as the coming JDM ver? sure like to see how it pit vs the Euro hothatch... As over here the K20A is still stronger then our FA20.

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