Scion FR-S Turbo Hybrid coming?

[kALMIGHTY]

I was at a FR-S meet yesterday, and one of the people there was an employee who works at the dealership I got my car from. He said he's been hearing things and seen emails being passed around saying that the power increase is confirmed and it is about 95% confirmed it's going to be a turbo hybrid system, and they're ditching the 2.5L bigger displacement engine simply because all cars are planning on going towards smaller engines while keeping the performance with the turbo hybrid system.
Any other Toyota/Scion employees, or anyone else who might have inside information care to chime in?
Anyone think this might actually be true? Turbo hybrid doesn't sound unlikely, but I'm not sure if I believe it's already 95% confirmed.

[bkblitzed]

still gonna cost upward of 40k+.

[continuecrushing]

dealership "employee's" seem to have a skewed view of reality...and/or the way they perceive things.

I wouldn't waste one second on what a car salesman/dealership employee says

[Adam Anthony]

Originally Posted by kALMIGHTY

I was at a FR-S meet yesterday, and one of the people there was an employee who works at the dealership I got my car from. He said he's been hearing things and seen emails being passed around saying that the power increase is confirmed and it is about 95% confirmed it's going to be a turbo hybrid system, and they're ditching the 2.5L bigger displacement engine simply because all cars are planning on going towards smaller engines while keeping the performance with the turbo hybrid system.
Any other Toyota/Scion employees, or anyone else who might have inside information care to chime in?
Anyone think this might actually be true? Turbo hybrid doesn't sound unlikely, but I'm not sure if I believe it's already 95% confirmed.

It's been basically confirmed that it will be a hybrid system of some sort to generate more power. Allegedly, they are almost 100% complete with the final product as it would be sold. It makes sense for toyota to do this. If they can make it affordable, they would be a pioneer outside of the supercars that are doing this. (i.e. Porche 918, Mercedes has their electric that has four independent electronic motors working each wheel). They were the pioneers with the Prius in a similar way from a technical standpoint.

I am interested and excited for this. I had planned on having my FR-S for about 10-15 years and continually tinker with it, though I may just trade up if a hybrid system actually gets released.

[Turbowned]

I believe everything I read on the internet, too

[Adam Anthony]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

I believe everything I read on the internet, too

You've added a lot to the discussion Good show.

[kosoku]

Originally Posted by Shutter

dealership "employee's" seem to have a skewed view of reality...and/or the way they perceive things.

I wouldn't waste one second on what a car salesman/dealership employee says

I somewhat agree with this.

I'm a dealership employee. Half the stuff we see or hear is no more different from what the general public sees or hears. Now if you get some information from a Corporate employee I would be more interested in that.

[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by Adam Anthony

You've added a lot to the discussion Good show.

There's nothing to discuss; just another rumor in the mill.

[tacoss23]

Complete BS imo.

Not to sound rude or anything, but your "dealership employee" or even the manager, has absolutely no "special clearance" or information that any of us could have or get. Dealership owners, managers, employees are absolutely nobodies in the auto industry.

The only thing a dealership owner, manager, employee can tell you that you don't know is basically where you car is going to arrive from the port, and lie you about your service and options.

Now back to the rumor that has been around, again, it won't happen at mid-life of the first generation of this car. It's beyond retarded to think it will. Now, for next generation, sure go ahead and speculate everything that you want.

[torqdork]

Having owned numerous Toyota hybrids, I don't see any chance of the modular system being fitted to the FR-S platform. There's simply no room.

Considering that the smallest motor/generator set now is about half the size of the internal combustion engine, where would it go? It has to be attached in series with the IC engine.

Then where would the battery go? Those are under the rear seat. Isn't the fuel tank there now? If so, the battery would have to be so small that the car probably couldn't be considered a true hybrid, more of a hybrid assisted drivetrain. That would also reduce the extra torque available, a big benefit lost to packaging limitations.

How much weight would it add? At least 200 lbs., mostly over the front axle. It could be called the JD-S (John Deere).

What would be the benefit with the added weight offseting the small torque increase? MPG would increase but that's not as important when the car is already economical.

How would the extra cooling requirement be handled? What drivetrain and brake mods would be needed? What would it all cost?

Not to say a hybrid sports car isn't in the works. It's looking like a new Lexus or maybe Supra is in the near future. FR-S turbo hybrid isn't in the cards, at least not on the current chassis.

[mashal]

I would like to see this email

[OICU812]

I haven't met many employees of stealerships that have a clue about well anything to be honest. The info here is usually more believeable and accurate over anything at dealers...

I'm fine with way car is only thing I want a Toyota dealer to tell me is the arrival date of new Supra. Nothing more...

[campy]

LOL I remember last april fools day someone made a thread about the Scion FRS turbo hybrid".

[86BRZ]

This talk again...