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Old 09-11-2013, 09:28 AM   #43
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I wonder what that means for the complete system
I have an email into Daniel about the 400CF and mid speakers. He usually responds around 9 EST
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Got my retuned amp and umbilical cable. Anyone know how to install the umbilical cable...?
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:42 PM   #45
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Not sure how to do the install. Do you mind taking pics?

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Old 09-13-2013, 03:09 AM   #46
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Not sure how to do the install. Do you mind taking pics?

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I installed it. and OMG it's f*king amazing. Everyone who has the regular kit MUST upgrade because it's so boss.

Procedure (the way I did it at least, couldn't wait for them to release an install video). Sorry I already put everything back together so can't take any pictures. I REALLY recommend having someone help you as feeding wires through the center dash can be difficult. Or use a wire hangar type of thing.

1) take out your head unit, left/right tweeter covers, and the trunk pull button kick panel.
2) feed the umbilical cable through the cavity of your head unit, send the RIGHT cable (believe it is red and black) to the passenger (right side) tweeter/old 3.5" speaker slot. do NOT go under and glove compartment, go through behind the glove compartment so it is the most direct way because you will want as much of the cable on the left side as possible. plug in the (yellow black 2 pin female) cable to the old 3.5" male connector.
3) feed the rest of the cable to the left side of the car, send the LEFT (blue/yellow) part and connect it to the left old 3.5" male connector.
4) feed the main wire to the back of the car toward the factory amp going behind where the kickpanel was so it is hidden. tuck in the wire where your origianl OEM audio+ harness is so it is hidden from view. Take out the left rear seat so you can get the wire under (you do not need to take out the side panel).
5) Disconnect where the old OEM audio+ harness connects (10pin) and plug in the umbilical cable (10pin) to that, the old OEM audio+ harness bypass (10pin female) will not be plugged in to anything.
For this part, I had the 10pin->2pin portion of the umbilical cable going from the factory amp area (where it connects to the factor amp wire) to the area under side panel where it connects to the rest of the wire. I fed the wire under the panel by going under the seat (not how to word it but there is only one way to connect it so it's hard to mess up, sorry if it sounds confusing).
6) zip tie and clean everything up, put everything back in and reconnect your headunit.
7) Play your favorite song with bass and start crying from joy

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P.S.: I don't think it is necessary to put back in your old 3.5" speakers as they will not be connected to anything anyways (the connections are bypassed by the umbilical cord). Also saves a pound or so.

EDIT: I completely forgot about installing the 6.5" on the door lol. Just look in the Audio Directory in this subforum and go to Sealing and Deadening the Doors. This will teach you how to install the 6.5s in the door.
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:28 AM   #47
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Talking to Daniel, the mid speakers do need to be sent with the amp. Video will be fixed shortly.
mid speakers are the ones on the dash ? 2 of them + the 2 door subs ?
is that what you mean ?
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:02 AM   #48
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mid speakers are the ones on the dash ? 2 of them + the 2 door subs ?
is that what you mean ?
I think by mid speakers is the two front (by the tweeters) 3.5" speaker connections need to be connected to the umbilical cable, which is then connected back to the amplifier (amplifier harness connection should be where the factor amp is)
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@l0aded Your cat looks a cool dude.
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Side note, if you order the whole reference system (not just the upgrade) do you still need to send in your 3.5" speakers? I feel slightly jipped they cut off the connection bracket from my old 3.5" speakers to make the my umbilical cord rather than just manufactured the connectors themselves.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:23 PM   #52
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That's the point! You're not supposed to be able to tell that the sound is coming from the speaker. What matters is that you get all the frequencies playing at the right part/focus of the sound stage.

Guys don't even bother with looking at 'reference' setups if you don't understand the basics.

Whoa whoa whoa. I wasn't speaking of sound stage. I was speaking of the lower frequencies (which is mostly taken care of by the door speakers) sounding absent from the audio while driving. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with road noise cancelling it out. In my Altima it seemed like even while driving the lower frequencies were still present.

Reference setup? OEM Audio is a reference setup? Because I'm sure the source (deck) is time-aligning all the sound and all the dips and peaks in the frequency spectrum have been EQ'd out to obtain a smoother response curve. I'm sure they spent hours tuning the system and changing speaker placement countless of times to provide an optimum listening experience to us with this "reference system". Just because someone slapped the word "reference" on their product doesn't mean that's what it actually is.


Don't assume I don't "know the basics", ok?
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Don't assume I don't "know the basics", ok?
If you know the basics, have you tried flipping the phase of one of the mid-bass drivers?
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Just finished the install.
I started at the back end and connected the umbilical cable to the oem audio plus harness to the amplifier. Routed it through the left side of the car and zip tied it to the oap harness to keep things tidy. Routing the cable up to the left and right mid woofers was a pain, but with a few zipties, was able to pull it through. Sounds good, but it's been a while since I last heard it, my A/B comparison isn't too accurate. I felt the mids were overwhelming the treble and bass. With the mid located behind only, it blends better.

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What's the turnaround time for getting the programmed amp back? I sent mine out two weeks ago and sent them an email asking about it and haven't seen or heard anything yet

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