Toyota is Working on a GT86 Hybrid

[mwjcyber]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Holy shit is your signature the most distracting thing on this forum!

Yeah, that dude freaks me out. Guys like that you keep away from your girl.
@HunterGreene... Best Sig ever.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by mwjcyber

Yeah, that dude freaks me out. Guys like that you keep away from your girl.
@HunterGreene... Best Sig ever.

I don't even read his posts, just look at his sig. Even if the next two posts is his again.

[strat61caster]

FA20 > 2.5L Disp increase > FA20Turbo > Hybrid

I like the idea of a 6 cylinder though, a 3L could still be an 86...

[dem00n]

I like the idea of a hybrid, assuming the boost in power is antiquate enough (More then 25whp please?)

The idea of a flat 6 would make the car more expensive, no one wants that.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I don't even read his posts, just look at his sig. Even if the next two posts is his again.

Originally Posted by mwjcyber

Yeah, that dude freaks me out. Guys like that you keep away from your girl.
@HunterGreene... Best Sig ever.

I remember when women found Jean Claude Van Damme irresistable. He made some fantastic movies. Now he's just freaky botox guy.

[mwjcyber]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I like the idea of a hybrid, assuming the boost in power is antiquate enough (More then 25whp please?)

The idea of a flat 6 would make the car more expensive, no one wants that.

I used to have a 2.8L VR6 Corrado, and would love to see a 6cyl FT86, but doubt that would ever happen due to cost and mpg/emission standards.

I plan to mod my FA20 into what I want. No plans to trade in for some other FT86 power-train.

[onefitz]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I like the idea of a hybrid, assuming the boost in power is antiquate enough (More then 25whp please?)

The idea of a flat 6 would make the car more expensive, no one wants that.

You don't add an electric motor for HP. You add it for low end torque.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by dem00n

The idea of a flat 6 would make the car more expensive, no one wants that.

ALL of the options listed for increasing power would make the car more expensive... That's a silly argument in this context.

In 1967 Porsche 911S came with a 2L flat 6 producing 180 hp, fifty years later I think we could pull a little more out of the same package, if they maintained the 86mm/86mm bore/stroke we'd get a 3L, certainly a viable option if not realistic historically, but hey who the hell guessed you could ever buy a Toyota with a boxer in it?

[dem00n]

Oh come on, i just replied to all three posts and they all decided to disappear?

Damn vBulletin...

ANYWAYS.

I think an H6 option would require more engineering , new transmission and so forth. This hybrid system add on to the FA20 (Assuming they'll use the FA20) would require a good bit of engineering as well (battery location and so forth) but i just think the H6 option would be more money then most want to spend.

Don't forget, not everyone loves 6 cylinders as much as 4's, for some reason in the modern day era its seen as a less sporty engine configuration for cars. (How many sporty V6/I6 have been made in the past 10 years? I'm talking rev happy!)

[Nemesis]

I know you guys like the 2.0 turbo because its lightweight and good for easy extra HP. But I would much rather have reliable HP with no concern about a turbo burning out. I've owned 2 DI turbos made recently - own one now. They are certainly more reliable then in the past, but still are less reliable then NA. Give me the bigger engine anyday, even if its more thirsty. Past experience says they will go with forced induction because its cheaper for them and requires little more then beefed up brakes if anything. They don't care about reliability if you don't and it saves them money. Again, let those that want a turbo put one on themselves.

[chulooz]

A hybrid system will add on some ugly pounds, might be torque-ishly awesome though.

A worked 2.5 could be fun for those that prefer NA. ~210hp/200tq?

Subaru of Japan's 2.0DIT is @ 295hp/295tq. That is, in my mind, subaru's next big move but they wont go there until they've upgraded the wrx/sti. (millions of subie owners can prove turbos are comparably reliable)

Rev happy H6's have been around for a long time now, if you cant think of any you probably dont know much about porsches. If you give up the arbitrary requirement of 'rev happy' you will find a hell of an engine in v6 mustangs. The other 'H' brand uses some v6's too. + Nissan's sports cars.

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by Nemesis

. But I would much rather have reliable HP with no concern about a turbo burning out. I've owned 2 DI turbos made recently - own one now. They are certainly more reliable then in the past, but still are less reliable then NA.

You dont have a turbo problem, you have a BMW problem.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I think an H6 option would require more engineering , new transmission and so forth. This hybrid system add on to the FA20 (Assuming they'll use the FA20) would require a good bit of engineering as well (battery location and so forth) but i just think the H6 option would be more money then most want to spend.

Don't forget, not everyone loves 6 cylinders as much as 4's, for some reason in the modern day era its seen as a less sporty engine configuration for cars. (How many sporty V6/I6 have been made in the past 10 years? I'm talking rev happy!)

You're right, assuming the 'hybrid' powertrain is stolen from existing products (Prius/Yaris?) a flat six would be the most expensive change. If they do a proper performance hybrid powertrain I think that would cost more than a 6 cylinder.

As for the 6 vs. 4, when was the last new high revving 4 over the past 10 years? It's a pretty slim list of high revving cars under $100k.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline...piston_engines

Hah, 6 cylinders are less sporty? How many sports cars come with 4 cylinders today? If you go by units sold I think V6's and V8's blow away 4 bangers, sooo many Camaros and Mustangs and Porsches.
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_cars"]List of sports cars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

TIL that our car has a similar redline to the Mclaren F1 and more 911's are sold per month than Miatas. Today was an educational day.

[mike_ekim1024]

If it could just eat more air and get rid of the torque dip that would be awesome. Are there any other FI technologies out there? Internal/integrated supercharger? Electric supercharger seems nice but a little messy.