STX Rules and Setup Questions

[neurokinetik]

Originally Posted by jprice130

I wonder if the Toyos were the only thing he brought or did he bring Rivals too? Perhaps he had both and intended to use the Toyos as a rain tire (since we know the Rivals aren't the best in rain), but then decided to gamble on them in the dry? If so, hats off to him on making that call.

Look for the asterisks next to tire mfg in the results and notice how many people did not use the same brand throughout the event.

Originally Posted by Scooby South

Heres the skinny...Jeff Hurst tested some 235 Toyos on the practice course... the were shaved..and have a similar compound to the pixie dust 195 Toyo's that have become so popular in STC, STS... and other classes.. Jeff was about 4 to 5/10ths faster on toyos.. He then 'overnited' a set to run for nats..he ran the ones he tested on Thurs... then used the Fresh set today... the have enough goodie in the tire to last about 15-20 runs... He was close enough to Palotta on the first day... .3/10ths out to use the brand new stickers today to win by 2/10ths... so he made up .5 sec to take the win.. Interesting tidbit... Jordon Towns..STXL champion "rented the Toyos" for her win in STXL for $50 from Jeff.. Interesting strategy...for sure.. but it seemed to pay off.. My Lady driver was the fastest 86 in STXL and ended up 4th...

Bill

15-20 runs, on street tires. That's about what the FWD (esp MINI and ITR) guys were getting out of a set of Hoosiers. I hope those Toyos really do go away next season due to the treadwear ratings, because they violate the intention of running a street tire.

[Simmons]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

Heres the skinny...Jeff Hurst tested some 235 Toyos on the practice course... the were shaved..and have a similar compound to the pixie dust 195 Toyo's that have become so popular in STC, STS... and other classes.. Jeff was about 4 to 5/10ths faster on toyos.. He then 'overnited' a set to run for nats..he ran the ones he tested on Thurs... then used the Fresh set today... the have enough goodie in the tire to last about 15-20 runs... He was close enough to Palotta on the first day... .3/10ths out to use the brand new stickers today to win by 2/10ths... so he made up .5 sec to take the win.. Interesting tidbit... Jordon Towns..STXL champion "rented the Toyos" for her win in STXL for $50 from Jeff.. Interesting strategy...for sure.. but it seemed to pay off.. My Lady driver was the fastest 86 in STXL and ended up 4th...

Bill

You got this half right, Hurst was on the same tires both days. He coned a run on Thursday that would have put him in the lead.

Plus he drove Very well.

Simmons

[2superblus]

Originally Posted by neurokinetik

Look for the asterisks next to tire mfg in the results and notice how many people did not use the same brand throughout the event.

Kind of inaccurate though since my car 8 STX has one next to it and my ZII's were on the entire event.

[neurokinetik]

Originally Posted by 2superblus

Kind of inaccurate though since my car 8 STX has one next to it and my ZII's were on the entire event.

Did you check-in more than one set of tire brands during tech? Maybe that's where the asterisk was coming from. I'm sure impound was checking tire brands each day, too, so it seems odd that they'd get that wrong.

[2superblus]

nope only one type registered with and only one type on the car for the whole weekend

[Scooby South]

* means no contingency... I think

[SubiePig]

255 or 245.. RS3's is only a 1 lbs. difference between them and 0.6" of tread width.

[Kido1986]

On a 9" wheel, it appears the 245 seems to be the better choice with a RS3, due to the software sidewall. 255 appears to be the winner when going ZII though.

[FastWhite]

Question: are the TRD style under car braces legal in STX?
To me the rules sorta say yes, but don't come right out and give a straight answer. Typical ambiguous answer that a person open to disaster.
If its no then what class would a person end up in?
Thanks for all the replies sure to come
I am a little lazy in reading all 22 pages.




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[Kido1986]

I do not believe so. Extra bracing (TRD is just the same as any other aftermarket according to SCCA) will go to *SP (hasn't been assigned a Street Prepared class yet) so Street Mod for now.

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by Kido1986

On a 9" wheel, it appears the 245 seems to be the better choice with a RS3, due to the software sidewall. 255 appears to be the winner when going ZII though.

I've run 245 RS3 and 255 ZII on 17x9 and I prefer the turn in on the ZII but when hot on an abrasive surface the RS3 even though a size smaller feel like they have more overall grip. For price I think I'm gonna go back to 245 RS3.

[SubiePig]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

I've run 245 RS3 and 255 ZII on 17x9 and I prefer the turn in on the ZII but when hot on an abrasive surface the RS3 even though a size smaller feel like they have more overall grip. For price I think I'm gonna go back to 245 RS3.

Think the price for the 255 vs 245 RS3 was something like $12. Made it harder to choose.

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by SubiePig

Think the price for the 255 vs 245 RS3 was something like $12. Made it harder to choose.

I mean price of RS3 vs ZIIs. I'm not actually sure 245 to 255 makes that large of a difference.

[neurokinetik]

Originally Posted by SubiePig

Think the price for the 255 vs 245 RS3 was something like $12. Made it harder to choose.

I looked yesterday, and the difference was only $1.