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Old 08-30-2013, 11:45 AM   #141
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This hits a nerve...

New 10 Series owners who have paid a $3000 premium for "exclusive" access to special badging, pain color and premium features. 10 Series owners feel betrayed by Toyota/Scio and may believe the value of their purchases are being diminished when the exclusivity implied is eroded. There will be 2500, 10 Series owners

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Early adopters (such as myself) want access to "superior" OEM integrated lighting, HVAC, and entry and starting systems. We feel that we're being unfairly denied access to these parts and connectively we are annoyed we were never given an opportunity to get them as an option or within a "trim" package. There are 22,000+, 2013 FR-S owners.

Put another way this is the "Haves" (the few) vs. the "Have Nots" (the many). This has never really been much of a rational thread; the reactions to this topic are deeply emotional.

For my part I spent $2000 to get some nifty headlights and to prove that I could do it and in the process got a reminder about human nature.
i feel the same way now... could've save a bunch of money buying a 13 base FRS and haggle down the price and just put the money for the headlights... its a damn shame...
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:55 AM   #142
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This hits a nerve...

New 10 Series owners who have paid a $3000 premium for "exclusive" access to special badging, pain color and premium features. 10 Series owners feel betrayed by Toyota/Scio and may believe the value of their purchases are being diminished when the exclusivity implied is eroded. There will be 2500, 10 Series owners

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Early adopters (such as myself) want access to "superior" OEM integrated lighting, HVAC, and entry and starting systems. We feel that we're being unfairly denied access to these parts and connectively we are annoyed we were never given an opportunity to get them as an option or within a "trim" package. There are 22,000+, 2013 FR-S owners.

Put another way this is the "Haves" (the few) vs. the "Have Nots" (the many). This has never really been much of a rational thread; the reactions to this topic are deeply emotional.

For my part I spent $2000 to get some nifty headlights and to prove that I could do it and in the process got a reminder about human nature.

You hint no nerve with me sorry.


I guess I'm in the "haves" group of owners but wait a minute I have a whiteout FR-S also without the 10 Series special features.

I wanted the features so I purchased the 10 Series FR-S to be in the "haves" owners list.

So your not in the "haves" list of owners and got a dealer to sell you these parts I'm happy for you and hope you like being a fake 10 Series owner.

That had me LMAO..!!

Now let see these headlights should be called the "USDM/DLR headlights" and not JDM ones as there's no car in Japan with them as the japanese car's are wired to work different.
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:02 PM   #143
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You hint no nerve with me sorry.

So your not in the "haves" list of owners and got a dealer to sell you these parts I'm happy for you and hope you like being a fake 10 Series owner.

That had me LMAO..!!
...as you were saying about disrespecting another 86 owner?
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People are making a fuzz over headlight... I only bought the 10 series because it came with HID's and the Dual Climate...

I don't give 2 shits if base owners want to do it, I didn't have to go through the hassle of ordering, installing and rewirering new headlights, and having to live with the ugly base A/C.
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:31 PM   #145
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...as you were saying about disrespecting another 86 owner?


My point is you stated your good luck buying the headlights so why keep quoting members and posting about your good luck..??

Are you trying to rub it into the 10 Series owners face that you now have their headlights..??

I see no point in you continuing to post the samething over and over enjoy your day.
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People are making a fuzz over headlight... I only bought the 10 series because it came with HID's and the Dual Climate...

I don't give 2 shits if base owners want to do it, I didn't have to go through the hassle of ordering, installing and rewirering new headlights, and having to live with the ugly base A/C.
That's just the thing. We don't have to live the ugly base A/C either if we don't want to. If you take the numbered plaque out of it this little excercise proves is that there's not a single part I can't get my hands on assuming I'm willing to go thru the hassle (and it is a hassle) of ordering, installing and rewire-ring.

It's like engine swaps. You can put whatever in where ever if as long as you have the information and tallent to figure it out. It's a free country!..

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Old 08-30-2013, 12:46 PM   #147
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That's just the thing. We don't have to live the ugly base A/C either if we don't want to. If you take the numbered plaque out of it this little excercise proves is that there's not a single part I can't get my hands on assuming I'm willing to go thru the hassle (and it is a hassle) of ordering, installing and rewire-ring.

It's like engine swaps. You can put whatever in where ever if as long as you have the the information and tallent to figure it out. It's a free country!..

[IMG]http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/BRZ06.jpg[IMG]

More power to you, anyone can do watever they want with their car, I just went the easy route... and Silver ignition is the closest I was able to get to baby blue...
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Are you trying to rub it into the 10 Series owners face that you now have their headlights..??
The point I was trying to make above is that this discussion has consistently devolved into an irrational, emotional discourse. I even quoted myself to illustrate when I was posting in an irrational manner so please forgive me, I meant no offence.

My only point is this.

Nothing inherently "belongs" to 10 Series owners other than the cars in their garages. Even down to the paint I can demonstrate the ability to purchase and apply any of these so-called exclusive features. I bought these parts because I wanted them and I've posted in this thread so that others who might want to do the same could see that it can be done.
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@Art_Mighty, the 10 Series premium was slightly over $2K for the HID's, LED's, Smart Key, '14 HU, dual-zone auto a/c, paint, belts and badging, all exclusive and factory installed, about what you paid for your HID's before labor charges. Not a bad deal at all although as BRZ owners point out lacks a few great Limited goodies like Alcantara seats and heated mirrors.

The only reminder about human nature I've read here is that some unethical dealers will do anything to make a buck.
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This hits a nerve...
No emotion here. Just logic.
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Old 08-30-2013, 02:22 PM   #151
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My only argument was the dealer breaking the rules. I could care less, honestly. I'm putting the spyder lights in mine, I think they look amazing.
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My only argument was the dealer breaking the rules. I could care less, honestly. I'm putting the spyder lights in mine, I think they look amazing.
yeah i wanna do the same... im thinking the reds

but i wanna see if anyone with a 10 series has done so yet...
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I sure hope 10 series owners don't buy my exclusive non 10 series headlights. These headlights are sold exclusively on non 10 series FRS, not even BRZ's have them.
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