Go forced induction or wait for toyota/subaru to come out with something faster?

[FReSh]

Perhaps you could go the header + flex fuel route to hold you over for a little while? It's a bit cheaper than FI, but a bit less power... How much more power are you looking to get?

[thill]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Earliest warrantied performance upgrade in a vehicle will be a 2015 model, so just under a year of waiting for the possibility of an announcement.

Personally, if I was wanting more power (which I'm not) I'd wait out the warranty and watch carefully for other members and their issues, a year from now, forced induction on the first round of 86's will be relatively ironed out and the limits well established compared to today.

I am 90%+ happy with the current power/output. I would like a little more, but I am willing to wait a few years to see how this plays out for the FT86 platform, as well as what else will be coming out (Mustang, WRX, Gencoupe, etc). FI is an option in a few years as well, like you said, wait out the warranty for a few more years.

I am thinking about 50 more hp and 50 more ft lbs of torque or so would give me exactly what I am looking for.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by thill

as well as what else will be coming out (Mustang, WRX, Gencoupe, etc).

I've got a hunch that the next Mustang and Miata coming out will blow the 86 out of the water, although that's enough time to come out with a power boost for the 86... for those who are interested in that sort of thing.

[frs10]

imho for street/DD the car has way more than enough power

tracking - ur in another atmosphere... and if you are into tracking, why r u so concerned with factory xyz when you know ur gonna mod the crap out of the car anyway? why not just put what you want into it with a stripped down model...??

[Sonolin]

Yea, I'm trying to wait it out for the next Mustang, Miata, and maybe refresh of Gen, Z, and BRZ. Going to try to wait until end of next year at least, when supposedly ford should be revealing the mustang details.

I'm in the same place as you OP - I love this car and love how it drives, but the more and more I read about F/I the more I figure out how much it *really* costs not to mention the extra hassle and potentially losing warranty. I calculated it out and for a full track car, F/I (with the Innovate) would cost me ~15k and that's with "budget" mods. Not to mention I'm not even sure if that kit would reach my power goals.

40k is expensive (total). If the next Mustang is really as good as some of the rumors suggest that could be where my money goes. But I'm not so sure its going to be *much* lighter, well we'll see.

I think with the success of the 86 we'll see more "lightweight" sports cars. I'm hoping, at least.

EDIT: I'm also considering doing the Nameless header when that comes out, with flex fuel, and see how a little more power feels in the chassis. Plus, I still want to track this car until I potentially upgrade so I'll be doing some other light mods as well I just wish it had more power from the factory damnit!

[phloozy]

factory power isnt fun. You always want more

[nodeal]

Yeah my power goals are ~290-300whp. But man will this be expensive, because it's not just the turbo, install, and tune I need to buy, but I will obviously be getting a new exhaust as well.

Then figure, eventually my clutch will go at this power and that will have to be replaced soon after, so thats another chunk of change.

Oh, and after FI, I'll sure as well be buying new wheels for my car. And of course, dropping the car is another desire of mine.

With all these goals in mind, I will probably be spending 15k or so on the car. That's a HUGE amount of money to spend.

Those current frs/brz owners who are looking into other next generation cars (Mustang, Z, genesis), what do you plan on doing with your car now? Trading it in?

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by nodeal

Yeah my power goals are ~290-300whp. But man will this be expensive, because it's not just the turbo, install, and tune I need to buy, but I will obviously be getting a new exhaust as well.

Then figure, eventually my clutch will go at this power and that will have to be replaced soon after, so thats another chunk of change.

Oh, and after FI, I'll sure as well be buying new wheels for my car. And of course, dropping the car is another desire of mine.

With all these goals in mind, I will probably be spending 15k or so on the car. That's a HUGE amount of money to spend.

Those current frs/brz owners who are looking into other next generation cars (Mustang, Z, genesis), what do you plan on doing with your car now? Trading it in?

except you are comparing a heavily modified car made to your exact specifications (Wheels YOU want, height YOU want, power YOU want, stiffness YOU want...)

Sure after you modify YOUR car you are in the same territory as a stock z, genesis, mustang but then you are in the same average car that everyone in the 60k+ salary range steps into. No connection or feeling towards the car.

[Dezoris]

It's a pretty big investment to do it properly. If you have money, it can be very rewarding.

[nodeal]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

It's a pretty big investment to do it properly. If you have money, it can be very rewarding.

Can you please define "properly"

[thill]

Originally Posted by nodeal

Can you please define "properly"

He has a whole video on it

See his signature...

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by nodeal

Can you please define "properly"

There are 2 trains of thought.

1. Get a giant turbo and get big dyno numbers
2. Get a reliable power output then upgrade your tires to make the power use able. Then upgrade your brakes and suspension bits to further improve the car as a whole. Also think about the reliability of the engine and FI setup and how to help, cooling, gauges to monitor things, a stronger clutch. and so on

[nodeal]

Originally Posted by thill

He has a whole video on it

See his signature...

Nice

[zc06_kisstherain]

usually two people for cars.

1. like to to mod
2. "why do i need to spend money to make it go faster or upgrade?" i can just buy faster car.

people around me usually ask me on #2 question all the time. yeah they don't know shit about car. i get tired of this scene all time so i just say "you are right! and go and do that when you buy a car" lol