Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 186 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

sierra · 08-16-2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiro

I haven't had a chance to read through 100+ pages of form but this is just what I heard from Toyota: The chirping is normal and part of the noise the boxer engine gives off.

I would assess it is because of the design and high compression, if the said comment was true. It's a little annoying but that's what a loud stereo is for :P

Strange then that the same engine doesn't chirp in Australia or Japan where ethanol is very rare?

strat61caster · 08-16-2013, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiro

I haven't had a chance to read through 100+ pages of form but this is just what I heard from Toyota: The chirping is normal and part of the noise the boxer engine gives off.

That's a lie to get rid of you. How many Porsches have you heard chirping? VW Bugs? Subarus? All predominantly use boxer engines and none of them chirp (unless there's a belt issue).

It's the fuel pump. Whether or not it's "normal" is up for debate, you're safe to keep driving it and ignore it but it is NOT because of the boxer engine layout.

shiro · 08-16-2013, 04:15 PM

I'm installing a GReddy Turbo soon so maybe I will do a stage 2 and replace the fuel pump and see what that sounds better. :P

DylanFRS · 08-16-2013, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiro

I'm installing a GReddy Turbo soon so maybe I will do a stage 2 and replace the fuel pump and see what that sounds better. :P

That would be the in-tank "low pressure" fuel pump you would be replacing which is not what the chirp is from. The high pressure mechanical pump is what makes the sound and, as far as i know, no aftermarket company has made replacement.

Firesnake · 08-16-2013, 05:37 PM

Got crickets repaired at 3K miles. 5K ish miles later, still trying to induce the crickets with heat & Shell 91 octane, which seemed to cause crickets previously. Maybe once or twice my wife thought she heard it, but I haven't yet heard it myself. We're trying to get it back consistently so we can get it fixed again if it is in fact starting to cricket.

BTW repaired at Toyota of Poway.

Blackbeltmma · 08-17-2013, 12:34 AM

My Update......
I've been using Ethanol Free fuel in Canada since June, and honestly, my engine has never been quieter. No crickets.
All Shell 91 in Canada is Ethanol Free.
Some Costco have ethanol free 91.

The_Societan · 08-19-2013, 12:49 AM

I have read many posts about these crickets, and for the longest time I never heard anything from my engine.

Until today. Very noticeable.

Is it just a nuisance, or a sign of problems ahead? Should I have the dealership fix it now(if there IS a fix), or wait until the warranty's almost up?

If it's not doing any harm, I'll just live with it. Maybe name my car Jiminy.

No.

BTW: Been using 93 octane since I got it.

kodyo · 08-19-2013, 01:06 AM

I haven't heard/had any issues relating to crickets. Waiting a bit for a definitive answer on fix, then I'll go in and get it fixed with the oil change.

HunterGreene · 08-19-2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Societan

I have read many posts about these crickets, and for the longest time I never heard anything from my engine.

Until today. Very noticeable.

Is it just a nuisance, or a sign of problems ahead? Should I have the dealership fix it now(if there IS a fix), or wait until the warranty's almost up?

If it's not doing any harm, I'll just live with it. Maybe name my car Jiminy.

No.

BTW: Been using 93 octane since I got it.

At this point, all evidence points to it being a nuisance only. Nobody has had a pump fail yet, and we have some owners approaching 15k-20k miles.

Some people have had the pump replaced as many as 4 times, and the chirps have come back every time (although E0 does seem to help most of the time). Its more hassle than I am willing to deal with, so I am waiting to hear of someone that goes a few fillups of E10 with no chirps.

FRS1010 · 08-19-2013, 11:34 AM

Had my oil change done yesterday and they had to order a new pump. Still all the same part numbers though. With all these members on multiple pumps with the same issue debating on waiting for an official fix.

Lizai · 08-19-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizai

began to have this problem last Tuesday. Went to dealer today and they are gonna replace the fuel pump and also update ECU. Hope for good

Have my fuel pump replaced last Monday. Today the noise is back after a week, 200 miles, even louder!!!!!!!!!!!Going back to dealer tomorrow.

Wepeel · 08-20-2013, 03:06 PM

Figured I'd contribute. Picked up my BRZ a week and a half ago, crickets showed up right around 500 miles. May 2013 build date. I'm not concerned about it.

Lizai · 08-20-2013, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizai

Have my fuel pump replaced last Monday. Today the noise is back after a week, 200 miles, even louder!!!!!!!!!!!Going back to dealer tomorrow.

Got back from dealer just now. They say my car has the updated parts already and they cannot do anything at this stage. Ask me to call Scion directly if it get worse....WTH.......

pixel67 · 08-20-2013, 08:03 PM

I am on pump #3 and the crickets have returned. Again...

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View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
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08-17-2013, 12:34 AM	#2596
Blackbeltmma Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Raven Black FRS Location: BC Posts: 41 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My Update...... I've been using Ethanol Free fuel in Canada since June, and honestly, my engine has never been quieter. No crickets. All Shell 91 in Canada is Ethanol Free. Some Costco have ethanol free 91. __________________ Raven Frs I call this car "Therapy" Happy driving.

08-20-2013, 08:03 PM	#2604
pixel67 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 Asphalt FRS AT Location: Dacula, GA Posts: 517 Thanks: 138 Thanked 199 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am on pump #3 and the crickets have returned. Again... Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ My Boosted Daily Driver Journal

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08-16-2013, 05:37 PM	#2595
Firesnake Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: Whiteout Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 30 Thanks: 36 Thanked 46 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Got crickets repaired at 3K miles. 5K ish miles later, still trying to induce the crickets with heat & Shell 91 octane, which seemed to cause crickets previously. Maybe once or twice my wife thought she heard it, but I haven't yet heard it myself. We're trying to get it back consistently so we can get it fixed again if it is in fact starting to cricket. BTW repaired at Toyota of Poway.

08-19-2013, 01:06 AM	#2598
kodyo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Los Angeles Posts: 686 Thanks: 597 Thanked 257 Times in 174 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I haven't heard/had any issues relating to crickets. Waiting a bit for a definitive answer on fix, then I'll go in and get it fixed with the oil change.

08-19-2013, 11:34 AM	#2600
FRS1010 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Tampa Posts: 82 Thanks: 34 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Had my oil change done yesterday and they had to order a new pump. Still all the same part numbers though. With all these members on multiple pumps with the same issue debating on waiting for an official fix.

08-20-2013, 03:06 PM	#2602
Wepeel Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: '13 BRZ Ltd Location: PA Posts: 458 Thanks: 265 Thanked 230 Times in 117 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Figured I'd contribute. Picked up my BRZ a week and a half ago, crickets showed up right around 500 miles. May 2013 build date. I'm not concerned about it.

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