(GOOD QUESTION) Which Spring make a higher front bumper? Tein H tech, RS-R or Swift?

[Figo]

I just check those Whiteline Strut mount, looks good, and the price is reasonable. Did you just install the spring and the Whiteline Strut mount on stock shock? Will u be able to change the camber by urself at home or u will have to ask someone to do it in the store when doing four wheel alignment?

Originally Posted by console_cowboy

I have no issue with sliding my rear wheels, even with the much larger tires. The tires I have are not the best, so that probably helps. The car is just easy to flick with the proper input. I really like the feel of the yellows, the stock springs didn't feel as close a match to the better tires. Also, about the rear sliding, that will decrease some with any higher grip tires. I imagine getting a set of adjustable sway bars would allow you to dial some more of that in. Playing with the alignment can be good too if you if you can find some place with a lifetime alignment. You can even make your rear end rotate better with any stiffening, even with tire pressure. The additional stiffness of the aftermarket control arms made my car rotate a bit better. I'd listen to the RCE guys though, they've helped me a ton and they really are into the design and performance. There is a lot more to suspension and how it will rotate than the spring rates, and I'm still learning more all the time.

[Figo]

HAH nice. I saw ur thread about ur tc with coilovers, hah. What tire size are u runing? I did not see any picture. I think tire size does matter. I am going to run 225/40r18 and 245/40r18 on 18X8.5 +44 and 18X9.5 +38. And the new front and rear wheel diameter are 0.47'' and 1.0'' larger that stock wheels. I will have to see the height difference after installing my new wheels. I ordered them and will get them at the end of September.

[QUOTE=garfull;1139390]I also have the 5axis kit and just installed the swift springs. Prior to installing I had a fender to ground measurement of 26.2 Front and 26.6 Rear. Now it's 25 even on all 4 corners so it seems like I got more than the advertised 1.0 drop front and rear. It does look like the rear is lower than the front because I can get just 1 finger in the wheel gap in the rear and almost 1.5 fingers in the front and I'm pretty sure the rear has more gap than the front. Although this could be a side effect of the diffence between my front and rear camber. I looked at side profile pics of others that have swift springs and it does look like the rear gap is smaller than the front. I have a really bad driveway too and I was doglegging it up before with my coilovers but it's not a problem now with the swifts.[/QUOTE

[Figo]

HAH nice. I saw ur thread about ur tc with coilovers, hah. What tire size are u runing? I did not see any picture. I think tire size does matter. I am going to run 225/40r18 and 245/40r18 on 18X8.5 +44 and 18X9.5 +38. And the new front and rear wheel diameter are 0.47'' and 1.0'' larger that stock wheels. I will have to see the height difference after installing my new wheels. I ordered them and will get them at the end of September.

Originally Posted by garfull

I also have the 5axis kit and just installed the swift springs. Prior to installing I had a fender to ground measurement of 26.2 Front and 26.6 Rear. Now it's 25 even on all 4 corners so it seems like I got more than the advertised 1.0 drop front and rear. It does look like the rear is lower than the front because I can get just 1 finger in the wheel gap in the rear and almost 1.5 fingers in the front and I'm pretty sure the rear has more gap than the front. Although this could be a side effect of the diffence between my front and rear camber. I looked at side profile pics of others that have swift springs and it does look like the rear gap is smaller than the front. I have a really bad driveway too and I was doglegging it up before with my coilovers but it's not a problem now with the swifts.

[Figo]

Hey Andy, if I purchase ur spring, it will come with crash bolt and Rear Camber Adjustment Bushing Kit right? I haven't make my decision. However, if I order other brand springs like swift, what do you recommend me to buy at least? I found these two on ur website:

http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-kit-16mm.html

http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-sti-2008.html

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Our RCE yellow springs only lower 20mm front and rear. It's a good look IMO.

They have even rates front and rear...but you won't have understeer because we also include shortened bumpstops. Soft front springs with a drop will be bumpstop active and the bumpstops are pretty firm.

- Andy

[console_cowboy]

Originally Posted by Figo

I just check those Whiteline Strut mount, looks good, and the price is reasonable. Did you just install the spring and the Whiteline Strut mount on stock shock? Will u be able to change the camber by urself at home or u will have to ask someone to do it in the store when doing four wheel alignment?

As far as the whiteline strut mounts, they are doing some improvements to fix a "pop" noise they make occasionally. Mine pop once per a day and have not gotten worse like others report. I have been in contact with Whiteline and they have been very helpful with the issue, they should have an updated set out in a few weeks.

When you install the Whiteline top hats, I would recommend installing them with the springs. They are not "adjustable" camber, they give you a set amount of camber and caster, both of which are good for handling. If you adjust the front or rear camber you will want an alignment. The suspension on our cars changes toe (adds about 3/32 deg toe in for every degree of negative camber, I believe) when camber is changed, so if you change any suspension settings you will want an alignment. I highly recommend finding a shop with a lifetime alignment. You may end up trying multiple settings like I have. You will also want the crash bolts so you can even the camber on the front, as it is highly possible there will be some variation between the two sides. Basically, each time you change your camber settings, you want an alignment. Having your toe off will negatively affect handling and cause very bad premature tire wear.

[Figo]

http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-kit-16mm.html

http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-sti-2008.html

These two are coming with RCE springs right? I was thinking whether I can change camber a little by these crash bolts and rear camber adjust kit?

Originally Posted by console_cowboy

As far as the whiteline strut mounts, they are doing some improvements to fix a "pop" noise they make occasionally. Mine pop once per a day and have not gotten worse like others report. I have been in contact with Whiteline and they have been very helpful with the issue, they should have an updated set out in a few weeks.

When you install the Whiteline top hats, I would recommend installing them with the springs. They are not "adjustable" camber, they give you a set amount of camber and caster, both of which are good for handling. If you adjust the front or rear camber you will want an alignment. The suspension on our cars changes toe (adds about 3/32 deg toe in for every degree of negative camber, I believe) when camber is changed, so if you change any suspension settings you will want an alignment. I highly recommend finding a shop with a lifetime alignment. You may end up trying multiple settings like I have. You will also want the crash bolts so you can even the camber on the front, as it is highly possible there will be some variation between the two sides. Basically, each time you change your camber settings, you want an alignment. Having your toe off will negatively affect handling and cause very bad premature tire wear.

[Figo]

http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-sti-2008.html

http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-kit-16mm.html

link is here.lol

Originally Posted by console_cowboy

As far as the whiteline strut mounts, they are doing some improvements to fix a "pop" noise they make occasionally. Mine pop once per a day and have not gotten worse like others report. I have been in contact with Whiteline and they have been very helpful with the issue, they should have an updated set out in a few weeks.

When you install the Whiteline top hats, I would recommend installing them with the springs. They are not "adjustable" camber, they give you a set amount of camber and caster, both of which are good for handling. If you adjust the front or rear camber you will want an alignment. The suspension on our cars changes toe (adds about 3/32 deg toe in for every degree of negative camber, I believe) when camber is changed, so if you change any suspension settings you will want an alignment. I highly recommend finding a shop with a lifetime alignment. You may end up trying multiple settings like I have. You will also want the crash bolts so you can even the camber on the front, as it is highly possible there will be some variation between the two sides. Basically, each time you change your camber settings, you want an alignment. Having your toe off will negatively affect handling and cause very bad premature tire wear.

[console_cowboy]

No, the RCE kit comes with Subaru OEM crash bolts, not whiteline crash bolts. I personally would not use the whiteline crash bolts (in your case), due to the clamping torque they hold. The OEM crash bolts will get you as much camber as you will be able to run with your wide front tires, so you'd only be losing clamping torque with the whiteline bolts.

Now as far as the whiteline camber correcting kit... I purchased one and didn't use it (still need to ebay it). A lot of people like the kit, but I couldn't find anyone local to me that would do the install for a decent price. The stock bushings in the rear upper control arms are a major pain to remove and pressing in the new bushings takes a good press. You may have better luck with that, but personally I like the rear LCA for adjustment. If I were considering the whiteline camber adjustment bushings, I would print the instructions out and take them to your shop to see if they are willing to do the install. I'd also get the install price ahead of time to avoid sticker shock. Not to mention, the amount of adjustment is less in the bushings.

[Figo]

So do u think a set of lower spring and OEM crash bolt is a good idea? Could u give me a link of those bolts? I will try this first and see whether I need further adjustment.

Originally Posted by console_cowboy

No, the RCE kit comes with Subaru OEM crash bolts, not whiteline crash bolts. I personally would not use the whiteline crash bolts (in your case), due to the clamping torque they hold. The OEM crash bolts will get you as much camber as you will be able to run with your wide front tires, so you'd only be losing clamping torque with the whiteline bolts.

Now as far as the whiteline camber correcting kit... I purchased one and didn't use it (still need to ebay it). A lot of people like the kit, but I couldn't find anyone local to me that would do the install for a decent price. The stock bushings in the rear upper control arms are a major pain to remove and pressing in the new bushings takes a good press. You may have better luck with that, but personally I like the rear LCA for adjustment. If I were considering the whiteline camber adjustment bushings, I would print the instructions out and take them to your shop to see if they are willing to do the install. I'd also get the install price ahead of time to avoid sticker shock. Not to mention, the amount of adjustment is less in the bushings.

[console_cowboy]

Well if you're going to go with the UCA adjustment bushings, the best deal going is this:
http://www.racecompengineering.com/i.../brz-lite.html

This is RCE's kit with the OEM crash bolts, RCE Yellow Springs, and UCA adjustment bushings. It is basically everything you need in one kit. If you need more clearance or camber up front, you can add some com-c top hats or adjustable plates. I have not used the whiteline bushings though, the install was just too much of a pain. Perhaps others can comment.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Right, our springs just come with bumpstops, but we have packages with crash bolts and/or the rear camber bushing (like above).

- Andy

[garfull]

Hah yeah. I didn't get approved to repave my driveway so coilovers had to go.

I'm running 17x9et45 245/40/17 rpf1s and 19x8.5et45 215/35/19 5axis s7.

[quote=Figo;1139680]HAH nice. I saw ur thread about ur tc with coilovers, hah. What tire size are u runing? I did not see any picture. I think tire size does matter. I am going to run 225/40r18 and 245/40r18 on 18X8.5 +44 and 18X9.5 +38. And the new front and rear wheel diameter are 0.47'' and 1.0'' larger that stock wheels. I will have to see the height difference after installing my new wheels. I ordered them and will get them at the end of September.

Originally Posted by garfull

I also have the 5axis kit and just installed the swift springs. Prior to installing I had a fender to ground measurement of 26.2 Front and 26.6 Rear. Now it's 25 even on all 4 corners so it seems like I got more than the advertised 1.0 drop front and rear. It does look like the rear is lower than the front because I can get just 1 finger in the wheel gap in the rear and almost 1.5 fingers in the front and I'm pretty sure the rear has more gap than the front. Although this could be a side effect of the diffence between my front and rear camber. I looked at side profile pics of others that have swift springs and it does look like the rear gap is smaller than the front. I have a really bad driveway too and I was doglegging it up before with my coilovers but it's not a problem now with the swifts.[/QUOTE

[Figo]

Thats cool。Those 17‘ wheels are kinda smaller than stock，19’ are much larger.hah

[quote=garfull;1141424]Hah yeah. I didn't get approved to repave my driveway so coilovers had to go.

I'm running 17x9et45 245/40/17 rpf1s and 19x8.5et45 215/35/19 5axis s7.

Originally Posted by Figo

HAH nice. I saw ur thread about ur tc with coilovers, hah. What tire size are u runing? I did not see any picture. I think tire size does matter. I am going to run 225/40r18 and 245/40r18 on 18X8.5 +44 and 18X9.5 +38. And the new front and rear wheel diameter are 0.47'' and 1.0'' larger that stock wheels. I will have to see the height difference after installing my new wheels. I ordered them and will get them at the end of September.