SUBARU BRZ FIRE

[Frs300]

Originally Posted by Foobar

That all said, should the OP's insurance be dealing with this or should the Shop's insurance be dealing with it? The OP wasn't even present at the time of the fire, and he had left his car in the care of someone servicing his vehicle. This isn't pointing blame at anyone, I am legitimately wondering who's insurance should be involved in this at this point. If it's the OP's insurance, then he's screwed for book value since I'm sure he didn't even have his additional mods (probably close to 10K worth) covered. If it's the shop's insurance, he might fare better as the shop should have sufficient liability to cover all of the book value and mods (especially if they installed them in the first place since they know exactly how much it's worth and can document that it's there).

shops ins should cover it if you ask me

[WolfsFang]

looks like i wont be getting a Visconti tune.

[Foobar]

Oh for those who didn't see the original unveiling of this car, here it is before the incident: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=184

[Nightbringer]

Originally Posted by Frs300

thats the thing though don or visconti will more than likely never come on here and give any details even if its not them thats at fault. If i was a customer of his i would want him to come on and give some sort ofclarification as to what happened and what hes going to do to fix it and how hes going to make it right for this guy.

Looking at it in a business aspect that would be the best thing for him to do i think if he doesn't want to lose customer but I think it might be way past that.

I think you may be surprised. I know how a majority have been viewing John lately, but I would be shocked if he didn't respond directly to this. Personal issues with his attitude/timeliness aside, if he's at fault, I'm relatively certain he'll take care of it. It's the only move that would be conducive to further business in this community. He already stated he would have an official copy of the investigation report.

John and Rich's major selling point since day one is the safety and reliability of their customer's vehicles. This unfortunate event is going to put the magnitude of their convictions to the test. Mistakes happen in this game, you have to pay to play, but how they react to this and other dissatisfied customers is what will show their true character as a vendor.

As another posted said, regardless of the validity of the negative perception, once one's reputation has been damaged it's nearly impossible to salvage it. It's very easy to lose favor and very difficult to regain it. They'll need to go very far out of their way to win back their previous status in the community, especially after charging people extra for "upgrades" that make the kit not a fire hazard. Wait and see. We may all be surprised.

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by BolognaWalrus

I kind of wish this happened on MSF.org...the inquisition that occurs when even a whiff of doubt about shady vendors pops up is amazing.

It happened on MSF years ago, Visconti (or John@theShopCT depending on how you knew him) bricked a Speed out of Savannah, GA's ecu and it got swept under the rug, messed over a few more guys, and claimed no responsibility on any of them. Search it.

I'm not the type to slander but I knew from the first day I joined this forum and saw his name that it was only a matter of time.

Sorry for your loss man! I wish you the best of luck @brzturbo keep your head up.

[Frs300]

Originally Posted by Foobar

Oh for those who didn't see the original unveiling of this car, here it is before the incident: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=184

so it was that car..that was the one charged was asking about wasnt it

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by SkullWorks

I knew this would happen eventually,
I'm sorry for your loss.

I wish I thought this would awaken enough people to the truth about these sacred vendors, but I doubt it will.

I doubt it too. The business model of a forum, where money from vendors is far more important than the voice of reason or a service to community, is somehow succeding.

[FR-S Matt]

Do Visconti tunes come with a complimentary fire extinguisher now?

[Ny Brz]

Originally Posted by Frs300

you shouldnt have to pay EXTRA for a fix because someone sends out a faulty kit and did 0 testing on it before hand. Its the not customers fault the product is crap and a fire hazard. Then again this is the FI thread and anything can go wrong

Agree 100%, if something is wrong good business is it should be fixed for free, no fees or shipping charges.

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Do Visconti tunes come with a complimentary fire extinguisher now?

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

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[Nightbringer]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Do Visconti tunes come with a complimentary fire extinguisher now?

Bro, that's the "Stage 2" flexfuel package. Costs an additional $175. Worth it IMO.

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

Bro, that's the "Stage 2" flexfuel package. Costs an additional $175. Worth it IMO.

[Toma]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

Sue his ass off.

No secret John and I do not see eye to eye.

But the owner that requested his car be modified is ultimately responsible.

You as the owner chose to significantly modify a vehicle that had entire TEAMS of engineers design it. Build it. Test it. Refine it. Test it some more. Millions of man hours.

We then aren't happy with the final product so we decide to spend a couple thousand modifying this sculpture. Hose. Fittings. Adapters. Metal tubing. Virtually all is made in China.... non oem. Not tested like the OEMs do...cause no one has that resource.

Fuck with shit and shit WILL go wrong. Hell it even goes wrong on bone stock cars.

As the owner... you are ultimately responsible and hope the parts and installers you have chosen are acting in good faith and double check every aspect of their work.

But there are still gonna be failures.

Like I said. It happened. It was a fluke or accident and nit deliberate that you can prove in a court of law. Be thankful insurance got your back and move on.

[evo4g63]

Sorry to hear about your car. At least you weren't driving nor hurt in anyway. I hope all of this gets resolved for you. Best of luck