Cusco Twinscrew S/C

[BolognaWalrus]

Haven't seen any posts on this kit on here. Looks a little like innovates...except this one comes with an intercooler.

http://www.cusco.co.jp/en/parts_prod...superchar.html

[mrk1]

been discussed a lot but the Cusco, Innovate, and Sprintex is all largely the same but different names depending on where you buy it in the world.

[xwd]

Same kit as the Innovate. Innovate is still testing the IC and hasn't released a kit with it. FYI Cusco isn't allowed to sell the kit in North America, Innovate is the NA "brand".

[mike the snake]

I have a friend who's going to Austrailia in a bit, can he buy me an intercooled Cusco/innovate blower kit and bring it back or send it to me?

What kind of HP numbers are the intercooled versions making?

[xjohnx]

Id love to know what the stg2 upgrade cost is I'm Australia.

[Nightbringer]

Originally Posted by mike the snake

What kind of HP numbers are the intercooled versions making?

Subbed for this... If the innovate kit can hit the 300whp mark the Vortech has, I'd much rather have a twinscrew. I can't imagine it won't hit the mark. In past experience with positive displacement superchargers, intercooling was a big deal. If people are already managing 250 WHP with no charge cooling, I'm intrigued.

[mike the snake]

If the supercharger could hit 300whp or a little more, OH MAN it would be sooo much easier and less expensive than a turbo kit and supporting parts I would think.

[diss7]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Id love to know what the stg2 upgrade cost is I'm Australia.

The prices are listed on bullets website. Believe its bulletsupercars.com.au

Google will find it.

FYI it won't be listed as the stage 2, as bullet decided to only release the kit with the IC. So the price listed is for the IC kit.

[diss7]

Originally Posted by mike the snake

I have a friend who's going to Austrailia in a bit, can he buy me an intercooled Cusco/innovate blower kit and bring it back or send it to me?

What kind of HP numbers are the intercooled versions making?

There's no reason you couldn't do that.

[mike the snake]

Can anyone translate this?

http://www.bulletcars.com/supercharg...er-system.html

Sorry, link didn't work.

The graph they show looks like 163.3 kW with what looks like a stock un-supercharged baseline of 106.8 kW.

Found another dyno chart saying 170 kW.

This seems to translate to 218-225hp. Not what I was hoping for.

Maybe someone can go to their website and look at the graph and translate?

[Dustin]

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

Subbed for this... If the innovate kit can hit the 300whp mark the Vortech has, I'd much rather have a twinscrew. I can't imagine it won't hit the mark. In past experience with positive displacement superchargers, intercooling was a big deal. If people are already managing 250 WHP with no charge cooling, I'm intrigued.

Peak numbers mean little. Comparing the dynos provided by both companies, the Innovate stays consistently ahead of the Vortech until the last 800 RPMs. Both are great kits none the less. But peak numbers really mean little if those numbers are only usable for a short period.

Not trying to make a this vs that thread. We all know where that leads. Innovate shows a lot of promise and we all know the Vortech is a proven setup that can make plenty of power. I'm just saying, look at the big picture, not just the final peak number.

[Nightbringer]

Originally Posted by Dustin

Peak numbers mean little. Comparing the dynos provided by both companies, the Innovate stays consistently ahead of the Vortech until the last 800 RPMs. Both are great kits none the less. But peak numbers really mean little if those numbers are only usable for a short period.

I agree completely. I didn't mean to sound like I was shooting for peak numbers. If I just wanted a pretty dyno car I'd be looking at the GT30+ builds. Hoping for lots of response, useable midrange and more off-the-line violence. Just was trying to say I'd like to see similar lines and output to the Vortech, just via a twinscrew.

[Zach3794]

I'd like to point out that on E85, Robi's fr-s would be around 300whp on a dynojet. He's on E85, 70mm (vs 75mm stock) pulley, and stock injectors. NO intercooler upgrade on his car.

From what I can tell, after the intercooler we may be looking at something more like 320 or 325.

[diss7]

Originally Posted by Zach3794

I'd like to point out that on E85, Robi's fr-s would be around 300whp on a dynojet. He's on E85, 70mm (vs 75mm stock) pulley, and stock injectors. NO intercooler upgrade on his car.

From what I can tell, after the intercooler we may be looking at something more like 320 or 325.

That is assuming the robi is having intake temp issues that an intercooler would solve. From what I've seen, he's running alco inj, so he may not see a 25hp gain from adding an IC.