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xxscaxx · 08-07-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by phloozy

Do you think the header added a lot? I will probably run stock exhaust with the SC for a while.

Seeing as I just added it and only received one revision so far, I can't really comment. It does feel better though overall but I have some datalogging to do later and can open her up a bit.

swift996 · 08-07-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Have you changed your clutch yet?

Nope, that's up soon. I need to sell a few parts first.

sw20kosh · 08-07-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by phloozy

Do you think the header added a lot? I will probably run stock exhaust with the SC for a while.

My tuner says that's the exhaust part that is holding back the most in terms of what he can do cam phasing / timing wise.

I don't have a header yet but I did see the tune adjust to my 2.5 OP and DP. Timing in the upper rpm crept up to a final total increase of 2-3 degrees after a few pulls. I am thinking a header would help a bunch too.

xxscaxx · 08-07-2013, 02:34 PM

Yep my tuner said the same about the header. We will see after a few revisions.

mines13 · 08-07-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I am still doing etuning but this car is 10x more enjoyable now. You can feel a small rush in power but this is not a turbo kit so you aren't going to feel that as much.

I've had two buddies who own stage 2 STi's and both said they think my car is faster than theres...FWIW.

I can't wait to get a smaller pulley and put e85 in this thing.

Well, the low end and mid range power delivery is going to make this system feel feel stronger then a low compression turbo engine, even with a smallish turbo. It is also pretty difficult to be caught out in the wrong gear with this setup.

That said, up top I would expect a full bolt on stock turbo tuned STi to pull this system handily; if that bothers someone then I would say they are missing the point.

evo4g63 · 08-07-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mines13

Well, the low end and mid range power delivery is going to make this system feel feel stronger then a low compression turbo engine, even with a smallish turbo. It is also pretty difficult to be caught out in the wrong gear with this setup.

That said, up top I would expect a full bolt on stock turbo tuned STi to pull this system handily; if that bothers someone then I would say they are missing the point.

I agree with this statement completely. Running against the Vortech car last night, my low and mid was far superior. I enjoy not having to wait for my power delivery on to kick in. This kit is a far different story from anything else I have built or owned. I really like that.

NickFRS · 08-07-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftEm

What was your trap speed?

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RedLeader · 08-07-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I've had two buddies who own stage 2 STi's and both said they think my car is faster than theres...FWIW.

I can confirm, after a few tests in Mexico, that even with the e-tuning barely started (not making much progress for my liking right now), my car is markedly faster than a tuned WRX, and I had an extra person in the car. It pulls so hard through the entire RPM range that its actually pretty embarrassing to some of the local muscle car guys (local Mexico muscle car guys

)

Sent from...somewhere?

mines13 · 08-07-2013, 04:00 PM

This is not aimed at anyone in particular, it is just a general statement. It would be greatly appreciated if everyone could avoid personally attacking other brands products or specific tuners in this or similar threads. We can bring much more to the community by focusing on the positives that everyone brings to the table then we can about obsessing over perceived negatives.

There are many great tuners and forced induction systems competing for consumer attention, and the decision for one to spend their hard earned money on one product or service vs another should be based on the quality of said service, and if the positives of one offering push more "warm and fuzzy" buttons for an individual then the positives of another. As always with this stuff, it isn't a game of right and wrong, it's what you want.

Now back on topic.

evo4g63 · 08-07-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RedLeader

I can confirm, after a few tests in Mexico, that even with the e-tuning barely started (not making much progress for my liking right now), my car is markedly faster than a tuned WRX, and I had an extra person in the car. It pulls so hard through the entire RPM range that its actually pretty embarrassing to some of the local muscle car guys (local Mexico muscle car guys

)

Sent from...somewhere?

Send me some of your old logs buddy

swift996 · 08-07-2013, 04:27 PM

I'm running a revised tune from @moto-mike. (fixing the slight hesitation under light throttle - so far so good)

I've added the Perrin overpipe and will be adding the Perrin Cold-Air Intake (extension) and their Oil Cooler early next week. I plan to get some more logs to Mike and have the tune ironed out back on 93 (still have 7/8 tank of E85). Maybe I can get back up to @Pure Automotive to get a few dyno pulls.

Pics, videos, and impressions to follow.

Anaxilus · 08-07-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by evo4g63

I agree with this statement completely. I enjoy not having to wait for my power delivery on to kick in.

This! I'm just sick to death of turbo lag on the street. After being used to sharp responses from NA around the streets of Mexico, going turbo was a good and bad thing. I just want to mash it and go....around the streets of Mexico. By the time lag catches up w/ me, I will have had a shit eating grin on my face for a good amount of time already while someone else would have been thinking "come on, come on, lets go!" <----I don't enjoy that in real world DD.

xxscaxx · 08-07-2013, 05:14 PM

I'm starting to get a squeal at higher Rpms when I let go of the gas, or when shifting into a new gear at higher rpms. Figured it was the belt but it seems ok and so does the tensioner. Maybe it's slipping?

wrxgoose · 08-07-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I'm starting to get a squeal at higher Rpms when I let go of the gas, or when shifting into a new gear at higher rpms. Figured it was the belt but it seems ok and so does the tensioner. Maybe it's slipping?

When the motor is cool, if you push on the belt does it move at all?

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xxscaxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: New York Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 458 Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yep my tuner said the same about the header. We will see after a few revisions.

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mines13 Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: '13 FR-S '12 CBR1000RR Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,038 Thanks: 305 Thanked 527 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is not aimed at anyone in particular, it is just a general statement. It would be greatly appreciated if everyone could avoid personally attacking other brands products or specific tuners in this or similar threads. We can bring much more to the community by focusing on the positives that everyone brings to the table then we can about obsessing over perceived negatives. There are many great tuners and forced induction systems competing for consumer attention, and the decision for one to spend their hard earned money on one product or service vs another should be based on the quality of said service, and if the positives of one offering push more "warm and fuzzy" buttons for an individual then the positives of another. As always with this stuff, it isn't a game of right and wrong, it's what you want. Now back on topic.

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xxscaxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: New York Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 458 Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm starting to get a squeal at higher Rpms when I let go of the gas, or when shifting into a new gear at higher rpms. Figured it was the belt but it seems ok and so does the tensioner. Maybe it's slipping?

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