Maxracing dynamic intake duct

[JDKane527]

Originally Posted by Burn

Would have gotten this if i didn't went for AFE. Quite happy for my AFE so far

You can use this with AFE intake since it just replaces the snorkel.

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[Burn]

Originally Posted by JDKane527

You can use this with AFE intake since it just replaces the snorkel.

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Not a bad idea, has anyone tried this combo yet ?

[2forme]

Not sure you'd see much of a difference. The afe is already a cold air intake.

[FR-Sizzle]

One of the most popular mods for an s2000 is Spoon's intake duct which is practically the same design as this design for the twins. To the people who think this wont do anything need to take a look at other cars that have scoops like this with cars that already have well designed air boxes from the factory.

Originally Posted by sierra

3 problems with this intake.

It blocks the heat exchangers.
Just 200mm of water will start a bow wave that could fill the intake.
It's picking up turbulent air rather than more stable high pressure air, which could actually lower power at high speed.

This poster said this duct wouldn't be good for the radiator temps well FYI tons of other cars have similar mods that have similar placement and they work really well. When your driving an intake duct infront of a radiator isnt going to effect anything. Like previous posters said it has NO effect that will damage or ruin your car. You probably arent familiar with the s2000 and other cars that use similar upgrades for air boxes with great factory design. If you live in places with little rain like California then you dont need to worry about locking up your car. I have never had a single problem with water on my s2000 with a Spoons Intake duct that is identical to this. If it rains just dont WOT like an idiot. You probably have never modded cars outside the FR-S/BRZ if you think this type of intake is no good when it reality intakes like these tend to be the best ones for cars like ours that have great OEM air boxes. Throw in a drop in filter and you will have a great intake that is better than what most vendors offer for our cars.


Also J's Racing/Mugen both have an intake that replaces your front bumper for the s2000 that has a cut out to attach to the intake/air box. Probably 1 of the most popular intakes for the car and you rarely have people who hydro lock or fuck up their cars if they dont drive like idiots in hard rain. Tons of s2000 owners have done this mod and if they dont hydro lock there cars with that then an intake duct like this even if it rains hard in your area shouldnt be a big deal if you dont go driving through floods.

Mods like these cant really be calculated on a dyno with just a fan. For example Mugen/J's racing intake for the s2000 on the dyno looks like shit when you compare it to an AEM intake that got 10 whp more than the more expensive J's. AEM performed better because it worked better with the fan blowing on it on the dyno. But every owner on s2i forums who talked about AEM vs J/Mugen intakes, who has owned both claim that the J's racing intake is much better when you are actually driving in real world conditions as a fan/dyno cant manipulate air moving at 60-80 mph unless you use a wind tunnel. Owners all claimed better low/mid range power/response with the J's vs the AEM which had better peak power when they drive in real world conditions.

I had the same Spoon intake duct and loved it on my s2000. I dont doubt this max racing duct is any different from the Spoon intake duct for the s2000.

Originally Posted by 2forme

Take some logs if you can of intake temperature throughout an entire gear, 2500-7500. Then compare the temps you see against a credible weather sites published temperature for your area. The gauge in the cluster isn't too accurate for outside temp.

I'd be intrigued to see if it performs any better than a VMS or AFE intake. According to my testing of those intakes, the delta is about 5-7 degrees.

I doubt this would out perform an AFE intake on the dyno but I wouldnt be surprised if it got similar gains to it. Like most intakes they all seem to perform the same and get around 5-7 WHP until

[WolfsFang]

Where did you guys purchase one of these? I want to see if this will help with short ram intakes.

[brz_star21]

When did this become an S2K thread!? LOL. Sounds like all the long winded posts have mentioned an S2K example multiple times.

All kidding aside, it's a simple intake duct nothing more but that shouldn't detract from its effectiveness. Don't expect gigantic power increases or temp reductions but it's bound to be better than the stock snorkel that has all those baffles and restrictive opening.

BTW, HKS just released a shorter version intake duct that keeps it high in the bumper like the stock snorkel.

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by brz_star21

When did this become an S2K thread!? LOL. Sounds like all the long winded posts have mentioned an S2K example multiple times.

All kidding aside, it's a simple intake duct nothing more but that shouldn't detract from its effectiveness. Don't expect gigantic power increases or temp reductions but it's bound to be better than the stock snorkel that has all those baffles and restrictive opening.

BTW, HKS just released a shorter version intake duct that keeps it high in the bumper like the stock snorkel.

S2000 is pretty popular and I know a lot of other owners who have moved on from the s2000 and onto the twins like my self. The other poster who mentioned the s2000s intakes brings up a good point though so I thought I would share my 2 cents to a fellow s2000 owner. Some people need to lighten up and open their mind instead of being so close minded. If mods like this didnt work for other cars they wouldnt be bought and so popular.

A lot of our cars mods designs get their influence from other cars who are similar just like how they got influence from other cars similar to them in the past. So its not surprising that you see mods like this that worked well on other platforms are very similar in design for our cars. Performance won't always be the same obviously but it's doubtful that they would be a bad choice. Its great seeing designs like this from other platforms.

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by brz_star21

When did this become an S2K thread!? LOL. Sounds like all the long winded posts have mentioned an S2K example multiple times.

All kidding aside, it's a simple intake duct nothing more but that shouldn't detract from its effectiveness. Don't expect gigantic power increases or temp reductions but it's bound to be better than the stock snorkel that has all those baffles and restrictive opening.

BTW, HKS just released a shorter version intake duct that keeps it high in the bumper like the stock snorkel.

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/product/i...uct/index.html

Found it. I hope they dont charge a lot for it but knowing HKS they probably will considering a similar 1 that attatches to the OEM box costs 350-400. Definitely will be purchasing this in the future over the Syms.

[xwd]

I saw it listed on one of those JDM parts sites for around $200.

It is listed on Japanparts.com for $171.

[sierra]

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/product/i...uct/index.html

Found it. I hope they dont charge a lot for it but knowing HKS they probably will considering a similar 1 that attatches to the OEM box costs 350-400. Definitely will be purchasing this in the future over the Syms.

The HKS is an excellent design that overcomes the 3 shortcomings of the other duct.

It doesn't block airflow to the heat exchangers.
Accidently driving into 200mm of water wont risk the engine.
It's picking up cool stable high pressure air.

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by sierra

The HKS is an excellent design that overcomes the 3 shortcomings of the other duct.

It doesn't block airflow to the heat exchangers.
Accidently driving into 200mm of water wont risk the engine.
It's picking up cool stable high pressure air.

You seem to have NO idea how a Mugen/J's intakes look like and how they are designed to work so here is a picture of both along with the Spoon Air duct which is very similar to how the Max Racing duct is. None of these intakes have problems with water. I and a lot of other people I personally know who have owned the Spoon duct at one point or another never had a single problem with water/cooling issues with the radiator.

Lots of owners of the J's/Mugen intakes and never have any problem with water either they are far more exposed than the Max Racing/Spoon air duct. As it is a very COMMON question on the s2ki forums for people looking to do that mod. It just seems like your just trying to come up with a reason to hate on this mod when in reality no one I know of on forums or in local clubs ever have had a problem with any of these sort of intakes with water or radiator temps being effected at all. Air flow isnt going to get blocked just because of the part infront of it. If we used your logic then I guess all turbo cars are fucked then since they have an intercooler sucking all the air infront of the radiator then. That duct is taking very little air that would of gone to the radiator. Also the Spoon air duct is used much more in the s2k community just because it is a cheap effective part to increase throttle response for people who would rather spend 250 vs a Mugen/J's intake + there bumpers/paint them.


J's Racing bumper for intake


Mugen bumper for intake


Spoon Air duct


And THOUSANDS of people own these 3 intakes as they are considered to be some of the best intakes for s2k and most popular. The spoon intake duct is very well known and used by TONS of people who drive s2ks and if it did have any problems like the points you bring up with radiator/water then it would of been known by now and wouldnt be one of the top parts to buy if you want to upgrade an intake for the s2k. I personally dont know a single person who has driven there car into a huge puddle of water or anywhere flooded. You would need to be a really dumb person to drive your car through a puddle or flooded area. Even without a duct it could damage your car if you drove it through a flooded area. IMO the difference of air you get at either location isnt big enough to make a big difference. It would get increased throttle response/performance when your going at speeds above 40-50 which is the whole point of a duct to increase the rate of air entering.

[brz_star21]

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/product/i...uct/index.html

Found it. I hope they dont charge a lot for it but knowing HKS they probably will considering a similar 1 that attatches to the OEM box costs 350-400. Definitely will be purchasing this in the future over the Syms.

Found some installed pics. Just in general you can see how impeding the stock snorkel can be with the restrictive opening and two baffles.

I wouldn't worry too much about pulling in vast amounts of water with the Max Racing one unless you're super slammed and planning to ford a river or two... but if you're that paranoid or just want piece-of-mind then the HKS is another slightly affordable alternative. As far as blocking the radiator, I also wouldn't be too worried about that unless you're running a stock radiator setup with a super mad thick triple core intercooler that seriously restricts airflow to the radiator which I really doubt anyone in their right mind will have.

[sierra]

Thanks for the pics!
I like that design. It overcomes the shortcomings of the stock cold air pipe which might restrict airflow at high rpms and they've designed it to clear the cooling fins so that it doesn't impede cooling airflow.
Excellent simple functional design for performance.

[Turdinator]

I just thought i'd post this to show exactly how much of the exposed radiator the maxracing duct covers and how low it is too the ground.