New found RESPECT for MT drivers.

[Snoopyalien24]

Quick question, how do you MT guys prefer pull off 1st? Clutch out then gas? Or rev a bit then clutch release?

Little trick I learned was letting the clutch go really slow, which moves the car like as in an Automatic when you release the brakes. That's if I need to inch foward.

I usually rev a bit then pull off. (I think) I don't remember lol

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Quick question, how do you MT guys pull off 1st? Clutch out then gas? Or rev a bit then clutch release?

Little trick I learned was letting the clutch go really slow, which moves the car like as in an Automatic when you release the brakes.

It isn't one then the other, it's more like a balancing act. After driving manual for long enough it just becomes second nature and you can feel when the clutch begins to catch and that's when you balance it with the gas before the revs drop.

[dalli]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Quick question, how do you MT guys prefer pull off 1st? Clutch out then gas? Or rev a bit then clutch release?

Little trick I learned was letting the clutch go really slow, which moves the car like as in an Automatic when you release the brakes. That's if I need to inch foward.

I usually rev a bit then pull off. (I think) I don't remember lol

My cousins told me to give a little gas and let off the clutch slowly.

[old greg]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Quick question, how do you MT guys prefer pull off 1st? Clutch out then gas? Or rev a bit then clutch release?

Technically, clutch out first. Once I feel the clutch starting to engage I start feeding in throttle while continuing to release the clutch so that the rpms stay reasonably steady. Basically, it's the same as getting the car rolling with just the clutch, except using a bit of throttle to speed the process up.

Ideally, you want as little clutch slip and as low revs as you can get away with (depending on the situation, that might mean very high revs ), just not to the point that you lug the motor, as that's bad for the bearings/crank.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

It isn't one then the other, it's more like a balancing act. After driving manual for long enough it just becomes second nature and you can feel when the clutch begins to catch and that's when you balance it with the gas before the revs drop.

True I guess I can't say which one of the two, rather, do you put a little gas then let go of the clutch or let the clutch go, while in motion give it gas. My friend's dad, who is a truck driver, and my dad, who is also a truck driver (but locally) say when inclined, or stuck in traffic, they do that.

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by Guff

I think the best way learn MT is to get a car with at least 500HP and a ridiculously tough Stage 3 Carbon Full-Body-Workout Clutch. Once they learn how to not stall that off the line, then you won't stall anything!

I had to do something like that once it was so hard but your right since then I haven't stalled an mt car or is afraid of hill incline. Wish I could downshift and heel toe well like before but with this injury I'll have to work with the pain and relearn everything. They took away my mt forester and now I got an auto one it's relaxing to drive but I do miss mt .

[Caliban]

come learn how to drive MT in SF. Practice driving in elevation changes in the city will make you a PRO hahaha

[serialk11r]

Hmmm this summer in my uncle let me drive his tiny little Peugeot with MT and if you didn't give it gas when the clutch engaged just a little the car would start shaking and stall -_- So if you can get the car to start rolling with no gas, damn.

I need to actually learn MT someday. I'm a control freak, and automatics drive me crazy when they shift by themselves.

[gamma6]

Theres quite a bit of at drivers in here quite embarrasing but my gf taught me how to drive mt on the streets (before all i knew was how to move a car, nothing like city driving)
And yea i HATE driving in SF! So many steep hills, idk if id prefer a at car living there.
The times ive driven there with those steep hills is that i put my hazards on cuz assholes like to creep up real close behind u not leaving room for any rollback that may occur :p

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

True I guess I can't say which one of the two, rather, do you put a little gas then let go of the clutch or let the clutch go, while in motion give it gas. My friend's dad, who is a truck driver, and my dad, who is also a truck driver (but locally) say when inclined, or stuck in traffic, they do that.

I would say clutch out then gas. I remembered when I was trying to stop on the speed bump, I was doing the rev and then let go the clutch and failed miserably trying to hold on a speed bump. In fact, it is hard to stop on speed bump since the slope is fairly small. Once you miss it, you miss it.

On a flat ground with no car around, shift in gear and try releasing the clutch slowly without rev to let the car find the engaging point to move forward like an AT car. Remember that position on your left foot and stop and try again. Once you remember that position at your left foot on that car, you know that when you need to release the clutch, you will move your foot to that position and then release it.

If you rev and than release, you are messing with the gears/cranks by not finding the correct engaging point on the clutch. You see, since you rev a bit and then release the clutch, once you pass the point, the engine will engage, although with some force due to rev, and off you go. However, you will not find the correct engaging point to release the clutch and you are doing it wrong.

Driving a MT is fun because you can do different things, even without stepping gas pedal, to move your car. For example, when I am backing out on my driveway, I do not even need to gas it because I just release the clutch correctly and I can move the car backward. It slowly picks up the speed and I can back out the driveway without pressing the gas (if the situation permits with no cars around, of course). When you go down hill, just release the clutch correctly and you will get moving quite a bit without gas. When you go up-hill, you may need to use e-brake to stop the car, release the clutch and press gas to gain some momentum and then release the e-brake to move forward. (or just have enough space to move back ward and quickly release the clutch and gas it to move forward....)

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Hmmm this summer in my uncle let me drive his tiny little Peugeot with MT and if you didn't give it gas when the clutch engaged just a little the car would start shaking and stall -_- So if you can get the car to start rolling with no gas, damn.

You are not doing it right. You should be able to correctly release the clutch without gas to let the car move in 1st gear. If you can do that in 2nd gear that is awesome. If you can do that in 3rd gear then you are really delicate with your left foot control. (try it, it has been done before...)

EDIT: for that 3rd gear stunt, I think you need to press gas in order to move the car.....

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

You are not doing it right. You should be able to correctly release the clutch without gas to let the car move in 1st gear. If you can do that in 2nd gear that is awesome. If you can do that in 3rd gear then you are really delicate with your left foot control. (try it, it has been done before...)

It takes quite a bit of throttle to get going in third from a stand still. I've done it a handful of times because I thought I had put the car back in first.

[Mr.Jay]

The world of the stick transmission is awesome and great fun once you learn to adapt to the car and get a sense for how the clutch feels. I learned to drive stick on a 89 Tracker (barbie jeep) with a broken tach good fun times. Best peice of advice I can give is don't feel pressured by other drivers on the road and just focus on what you are trying to do and it will come with time

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

It takes quite a bit of throttle to get going in third from a stand still. I've done it a handful of times because I thought I had put the car back in first.

Agreed. I did once or twice because I forgot to shift back into 1st, and that is typically *after* I drove some AT cars...