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Old 08-01-2013, 11:24 PM   #715
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Has anybody gotten ~250whp on pump yet?

I've seen quite a few 240-250whp dynos but are these all on e85?
None of them are on e85 with the supercharger. They are on 92 pump gas.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:39 PM   #716
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Has anybody gotten ~250whp on pump yet?

I've seen quite a few 240-250whp dynos but are these all on e85?
yes. 255whp on 93 octane according to the Dyno Dynamics dyno I've been using.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:50 PM   #717
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yes. 255whp on 93 octane according to the Dyno Dynamics dyno I've been using.
That's what I like to hear

Can't wait to buy this kit. I want to feel what it does with 10psi + e85.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:55 PM   #718
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That's what I like to hear

Can't wait to buy this kit. I want to feel what it does with 10psi + e85.
FINAL RESULTS WILL VARY! All engines have slight variances, and some might not be quite as happy as mine is.

I need to go dyno on other dynos, as I might have a freak engine, or their dyno might be reading high.
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That's what I like to hear

Can't wait to buy this kit. I want to feel what it does with 10psi + e85.
Does anyone know if the supercharger can support a 65mm pulley?

I called Innovate and asked them about different pulley sizes and they said that at 70mm, the unit was already maxing out and being over ridden. Anyone know the unit intimately enough to tell me whether or not they are blowing smoke up my ass saying that?

Im interested in the overall potential/growth of this kit, long term wise.
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FINAL RESULTS WILL VARY! All engines have slight variances, and some might not be quite as happy as mine is.

I need to go dyno on other dynos, as I might have a freak engine, or their dyno might be reading high.
Do you know if your dyno result is the lower Dyno Dynamics value or the inflated Dynojet equivalent value?
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before I can tell for certain, i'm gonna go to the mustang dyno that I used before, but I think it was WAY high.
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before I can tell for certain, i'm gonna go to the mustang dyno that I used before, but I think it was WAY high.
After I posted that question I looked through your build thread and it appears that your dyno shop is providing the lower Dyno Dynamics numbers, not Dynojet equivalent. Stock cars seem to make 160-170whp on dynojets but your result was only 151whp. That really makes your 255whp even more impressive. I bet that 3" exhaust helps a lot but it must be really loud.

That "Mustang" dyno sheet looks like a Dynojet to me. That easily explains why it read so high. Whose tune are you running now? Any issues? I really want to buy but can't decide between tuners.
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Very interesting. @wrxgoose are you on any mods other than the innovate supercharger? Seems strange to me that you would be over 100whp gain compared to others who are dynoing at 210-220whp.

Anyways, I'm just hoping 280whp on e85 with this kit is doable (@10psi). If so I'll be definitely shelling out the cash for it. Definitely the best "bang for the buck" on the market, and time will tell if people will be able to reach higher numbers.

Can't wait for 1/4 mile times as well. I've already heard of 1 planning on doing so, and that's a much more "real world" test than dyno numbers so it will be interesting to see. If this kit can get into the 12's that would be amazing.
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Does anyone know if the supercharger can support a 65mm pulley?

I called Innovate and asked them about different pulley sizes and they said that at 70mm, the unit was already maxing out and being over ridden. Anyone know the unit intimately enough to tell me whether or not they are blowing smoke up my ass saying that?

Im interested in the overall potential/growth of this kit, long term wise.
No, it's the same info as from the manufacturer.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:16 AM   #725
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So if the standard kits have 75mm pulleys, and the 'more boost' solution is a 70mm pulley, which is supposed to be "maxing out and being over ridden", what is the 'sweet spot'…? Do we need something special, like a 72.314mm pulley for optimal boost vs. "maxing out and being over ridden"…?!?
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:51 AM   #726
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Innovate Flex Fuel Tune = Awesome!

Thought everyone might like this. We just finished a Flex Fuel tune on the Innovate Supercharger with the following modifications. On a dyno jet we would expect about 260-270whp on this setup.



Next couple items for this vehicle:
- 70mm Pulley Upgrade
- Innovate Intercooler Upgrade

On a dyno jet (with the additional upgrades) this should net us right around 300whp and we are seeing if we can continue to use the OEM injectors.

We also just added launch control, flat foot shifting and auto-blip to this vehicle. More to come...

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Would be interesting to see if there is a speed differential between the s/c and the crank during launch control.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:24 AM   #728
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Does anyone know if the supercharger can support a 65mm pulley?

I called Innovate and asked them about different pulley sizes and they said that at 70mm, the unit was already maxing out and being over ridden. Anyone know the unit intimately enough to tell me whether or not they are blowing smoke up my ass saying that?

Im interested in the overall potential/growth of this kit, long term wise.
You can find them because that's what the guys in the Mini's upgrade to. Not sure what that would raise the boost to. Maybe 10-12 psi. Seems high without an intercooler.
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