Scion FR-S & Subaru BRZ Debut at 2012 Detroit NAIAS. 600HP Drift FR-S Race Car Reveal

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

I hear ya and agree, but in the end the VP is not a good presenter. He seems a bit fake and over the top. He needs to calm down and be more down to earth and real.

But overall I think Scion is doing a good job.

Yeah I know, sometimes it's a bit on the lame side, kinda like when you go to the dealership as most of us will....and run into a Salesman who is going to try and educate you on this car when 99% of us on here are going to know way more about the car then they will....lol.

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Nope I bet it not going to be optional...will be standard. My prediction. That radio we saw back in November was a place holder. They did not want you to see the Pioneer Bespoke system yet because it was not ready.

Why do some people still think that navigation systems still have to cost $1000 to $2000 when every smartphone has a built in GPS navigation?

They wanted to add some tech to the car and this was it. Hopefully it is good.

The BRZ is the one that comes standard. Scion it not going to do that. GPS Navigation in a car is not the same as on your phone. Functionally it works the same, but cost to build is not there. You have a loading disc tray (CD/DVD drive's) that drive manufacture up, software specific to the Navi system, more rotating parts...etc. The 7inch screen on your Navi cost more than your 4inch Android/Iphone does....so many more cost associated with it that you simply can't compare it to that of a cell phone.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Yeah I know, sometimes it's a bit on the lame side, kinda like when you go to the dealership as most of us will....and run into a Salesman who is going to try and educate you on this car when 99% of us on here are going to know way more about the car then they will....lol.





The BRZ is the one that comes standard. Scion it not going to do that. GPS Navigation in a car is not the same as on your phone. Functionally it works the same, but cost to build is not there. You have a loading disc tray (CD/DVD drive's) that drive manufacture up, software specific to the Navi system, more rotating parts...etc. The 7inch screen on your Navi cost more than your 4inch Android/Iphone does....so many more cost associated with it that you simply can't compare it to that of a cell phone.

The Pioneer Bespoke has telemetrics. The Navi does not run off a disc, but is flash based like an iphone. Sure you can't compare it to the cell phone because yea there is a lot more involved.

Scion wants people to use this new tech and they will probably make it standard across all the scion models in the near future. I only say this because of Scion's monospec philosophy. They will have to make it standard on the FR-S first for them to do it. Charging $2000 for will make it fail.

http://www.scion.com/blog/2012/01/09...cements-recap/
2. Pioneer Car Audio’s ‘BeSpoke’ Infotainment System Powered by Zypr

Scion buyers are the youngest in the entire automotive industry…and these young buyers demand the latest in in-car technology. Last year we made Bluetooth and HD Radio STANDARD in all of the Scion models…but with the insane speed of technology, techies are already hungry for more features…a desire to be connected.
We are happy to announce that the 2013 FR-S will not only be raising the bar in driving performance, but it will also take in-car technology to new heigh, as it will be the first car to feature Scion’s next generation connected infotainment audio system called BeSpoke, powered by Pioneer’s Zypr. The new BeSpoke system has some cool features that Scion owners are going to love:

1. The ability to locate a friend on the map on your audio screen…send them a tweet to meet up for coffee via voice command, and then have a routing feature guide you to the café.
2. Check your friend’s Facebook wall posts or recent tweets.
3. Have access to hundreds of internet radio stations

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Sounds like standard equipment to me. Actually nowhere does it say it has navigation. That is just assumed. Sounds more like a internet connected voice activated radio. Definitely different from what is in the BRZ. Oh wait...

Opps this is what is in the BRZ....its kind of the same thing.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/09/a...-4th-spectrum/

[Dragonitti]

^Don't see it being standard. Needless to say, more info is needed. If it is, I'm not going to complain....even though I think the Facebook/Twitter is stupid to include into it. I'd rather it do other functions instead. I don't want my car integrated to the social media. Just another way for the Gov. to be able to track your whereabouts. I hope you can disable that feature at least and it doesn't force you to log into Facebook just to reach a function.

[Kids Heart]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

^Don't see it being standard. Needless to say, more info is needed. If it is, I'm not going to complain....even though I think the Facebook/Twitter is stupid to include into it. I'd rather it do other functions instead. I don't want my car integrated to the social media. Just another way for the Gov. to be able to track your whereabouts. I hope you can disable that feature at least and it doesn't force you to log into Facebook just to reach a function.

No push start, you'll have to login to Facebook to start the ignition

[carbonBLUE]

it would be cool if the touch screen nav started up with a big red button in the middle that said "START ENGINE" and you pressed it to start the car

[Dragonitti]

^Umm....No

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

^Umm....No

you are soo cold sir, lol... i understand why this would cause so many problems

[BeRZercar]

Or you tweet; "start" to your twitter account and after the government Ok's it your car starts.

Give me good ol' fashioned key in the ignition. Option for no radio, roll up windows, halogen's vs hid's, no a/c basically a stripper... I'm looking for a modern day version of my 71 mgb GT (but obviously more reliable).

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by BeRZercar

Or you tweet; "start" to your twitter account and after the government Ok's it your car starts.

Give me good ol' fashioned key in the ignition. Option for no radio, roll up windows, halogen's vs hid's, no a/c basically a stripper... I'm looking for a modern day version of my 71 mgb GT (but obviously more reliable).

i park on a hill so ill just release the ebrake and drop the clutch to start my car every time if you wanna go old fashion lol....

ohh and my 2nd 86 will be a cheap stripper too

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

No push start, you'll have to login to Facebook to start the ignition

LOL Since I hate FB and will never use it I guess I can't get the Scion.

(yes I know that was a sarcastic post)

[Dragonitti]

LOL....

[Zaku]

Can I just have a damn car, like you know one without all the extra crap. I want a car for a soul purpose of a car, i have a tablet,computer,ipod,andriod phone. They all do the same things i dont need a car for FB i need a car for the joy of driving.

Hope a track package is offered for either a brz or frs.

[no_name]

In the video, it says the FR-S drift car is 3000lb. HOW?!

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Can I just have a damn car, like you know one without all the extra crap. I want a car for a soul purpose of a car, i have a tablet,computer,ipod,andriod phone. They all do the same things i dont need a car for FB i need a car for the joy of driving.

Hope a track package is offered for either a brz or frs.

I definitely am on the same page as you...

Originally Posted by no_name

In the video, it says the FR-S drift car is 3000lb. HOW?!

How not? Removing a lot of the beams from the doors, interior, sound dead...etc. Adding back a roll cage, turbo setup to the motor, suspension work should be lighter than stock. Hood, hatches, roof...can be lighter. Lot of ways to shed weight.