Has anyone had a warranty claim denied? Seized engine! Pics of teardown added 6/5

[thill]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

That's what they're alleging.

We told them, literally, to tear our car apart, and show us how WE caused the damage. Cuz, you know, we obviously melted our cats with a blow torch before having our vehicle towed to the dealer.

I don't see how they can deny the warranty if they have no way to prove it, especially since you are being so open. I am sure if they wanted they could tell if something had been modified and also do forensics on the ECU.

On the flip side I can see where other performance shops would mod the hell out of the car, beat it to death, and then try and get warranty work performed. Clearly, you guys are not that kinda shop.

Hopefully you can get this resolved one way or the other. As you stated in your original post both Subaru and Toyota have marketed this car as a sports car to take to the track. Which you did. There should be no harm in that, not to mention you are not the only person that has observed the DI issues, so this is not an isolated incident.

Good luck.

[thill]

This seems like the ideal case for small claims court...

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by thill

This seems like the ideal case for small claims court...

The reward limit is less than the cost to replace the engine.

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[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Foobar

The reward limit is less than the cost to replace the engine.

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Is it? These are the limits I found from California: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...uch-30031.html

$10,000, except that a plaintiff may not file a claim over $2,500 more than twice a year. Limit for local public entity or for businesses is $5,000. $6,500 is the limit in suits by an individual against a guarantor that charges for its guarantor or surety services.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Is it? These are the limits I found from California: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...uch-30031.html

That is less than the cost of replacing the engine...

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

That is less than the cost of replacing the engine...

Damn, that expensive? What's the cost to replace it?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Damn, that expensive? What's the cost to replace it?

Basically, assembling a short block, and then dropping it in.

Parts cost was something like 8100? New from Subaru of course.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Damn, that expensive? What's the cost to replace it?

P/N for the longblock is over $7000. Add labor, etc.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Basically, assembling a short block, and then dropping it in.

Parts cost was something like 8100? New from Subaru of course.

Weird. Buysubarupartsnow.com has the entire assembled engine assembly (Part #: 10100BV290) for $5515.21 ($7353.61), unless that's missing some parts that i'm not aware of.

http://www.buysubarupartsnow.com/par.../engine/engine

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

P/N for the longblock is over $7000. Add labor, etc.

So take them to small claims court for the cost of the long lock if nothing else.

Is the car owned by an individual or the business? If an individual it would be better as the limits for small claims would be higher.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Weird. Buysubarupartsnow.com has the entire assembled engine assembly (Part #: 10100BV290) for $5515.21 ($7353.61), unless that's missing some parts that i'm not aware of.

http://www.buysubarupartsnow.com/par.../engine/engine

I wonder how complete that is...

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Is it? These are the limits I found from California: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...uch-30031.html

Hmm according to ca.gov the limit is 7500. Either way, not enough. Also if the car is owned by CSG as a business then the limit is 5k.

Finally, if the venue is in the defendant's state, then its even lower at Jersey's 3k limit. SOA is headquartered in NJ. Usually the venue is in the defendant's state but I'm not sure if this is an exceptional situation.

As always, YMMV. IANAL. Yaddah yaddah yaddah.

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[CSG Mike]

The car is privately owned... but so are all of the other cars that I drive.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I wonder how complete that is...

In the past you were unable to order EJ2xx longblocks according to a local shop I frequent. The P/N existed, but no one would order it for you.