Scion FR-S & Subaru BRZ Debut at 2012 Detroit NAIAS. 600HP Drift FR-S Race Car Reveal

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by Infernal

what? it would have been nice to see a tuned fb20 in there - they may as well have dropped any engine in it

i just dont get the point of why they developed a new engine between toyota/subaru and arent helping the tuner scene (who this car is meant for) by bringing out the Greddy turbo or Cosworth stroker kits - surely thats what the logo's are there for on the side of the car?

why advertise cosworth parts on an frs if there isnt even any developed for it?

When you read it has 600hp did you really think they would develop the R&D to build the motor AND build an adequate F/I system with such a short time between now and FD season starting....That's a tall order for any company to adequately R&D and test before FD. It's rather common sense. And really...since when would a motor swap constitute no aftermarket parts being R&D'ed from other companies when/after the release of this car? The block in the car has Cosworth built components.

If anything I would have figured they would do the swap just to get Gushi in competition and continue to develop the FA setup in house in the meantime. Which is exactly what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Infernal

it's not really an frs without the frs engine is it though? i dunno, just seems like a stange move to me

I think the Ej swap is going to happen on this car anyway. It's better at being a true FR-S than the BRZ GT300 is at being a BRZ. That's not even close to being a BRZ.

[ACHlLLES]

Originally Posted by miata

What if I win this week and come to find out the car will cost $28k, which I don't plan to pay? Will one of you buy it from me?

It says you can't transfer the rights to pirchase the car.

[Slide]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

When you read it has 600hp did you really think they would develop the R&D to build the motor AND build an adequate F/I system with such a short time between now and FD season starting....That's a tall order for any company to adequately R&D and test before FD. It's rather common sense. And really...since when would a motor swap constitute no aftermarket parts being R&D'ed from other companies when/after the release of this car? The block in the car has Cosworth built components.

If anything I would have figured they would do the swap just to get Gushi in competition and continue to develop the FA setup in house in the meantime. Which is exactly what they are doing.




I think the Ej swap is going to happen on this car anyway. It's better at being a true FR-S than the BRZ GT300 is at being a BRZ. That's not even close to being a BRZ.

Who knows how long they have had to work on the car... considering how many times we have seen it.

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by Slide

Who knows how long they have had to work on the car... considering how many times we have seen it.

If they had that much time, they would be using the stock motor, or at least have motor parts developed for the stock motor already. It just makes logical sense to go with the Ej for starters.

[ahausheer]

Originally Posted by ACHlLLES

It says you can't transfer the rights to pirchase the car.

You can't transfer the rights but you can still turn the offer down. I'm pretty sure its illegal to make someone agree to buy something before a price is set.

[Zgrinch]

I have been traveling most of the day and just got into my hotel...
26 pages and no freakin price!!!!

I can't stand this crap. I was looking forward to reading all the scoop and reading all the back and forth on the price.

This just sucks!

[Zaku]

I like how on the 86 first site, the FAQ has a "When will the final Price be etc etc" and it says "Spring 2012" are people really gonna reserve blind? then again Im sure their's 86 people out there that is sure to just buy it off the bat.

At this point Im thinking look to Subaru to have the price told first, I don't know what's the hold up if they are doing research they already know what the public want for price do we have to make a site and make a petition? lol

wait some more pretty much after what 2007, ridiculous. Im not expecting anything till next year at this point even if you get the price no guarantee you'll get one right away.

[Alfie]

WOW Still no plastic wheel well liner! Great for slamming the bitch, but...

...to oil spray? or to rust inhibitor module? Hmmm...

[TylerLieberman]

No price=FAIL

Just like I figured the FD car looks lame. Wide fronts and rear overs when the car is running anything but aggressive fitment to begin with. Obviously not gonna be a factory piece cause having rear overs requires cutting and other modifications to the stock quarter panels and I doubt very many people will go for it...besides, it looks like shit on this car.

Im waiting for price before I decide whether or not to pull the trigger. Not gonna sell off the current ride and stuff just to find out that the car is way overpriced. Hopefully the BRZ wont pass 24k meaning the Scion will hopefully sit around 21-22.

[driftguy]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

^Do you guys not already own cars? Are you like in dire need?

Actually, yes. I've been commuting exclusively on a motorcycle for the past two and a half years and have been waiting patiently for a car to come along that was worth buying. So far Toyota has managed to pique my interest for what, over a year?, but if they continue to slowly drag out the key information needed for any normal person to make a buying (more like waiting) decision, I'll just have to take the money I've been saving elsewhere. If they are out there listening to what has been said here, they should see how important that information is to the car's biggest fans. Enough with the hype and marketing ploys, we obviously like the car, just tell us how much it is already! Quit baiting the hook if you're not willing to reel us in.

[NemesisPrime909]

Originally Posted by driftguy

Actually, yes. I've been commuting exclusively on a motorcycle for the past two and a half years and have been waiting patiently for a car to come along that was worth buying. So far Toyota has managed to pique my interest for what, over a year?, but if they continue to slowly drag out the key information needed for any normal person to make a buying (more like waiting) decision, I'll just have to take the money I've been saving elsewhere. If they are out there listening to what has been said here, they should see how important that information is to the car's biggest fans. Enough with the hype and marketing ploys, we obviously like the car, just tell us how much it is already! Quit baiting the hook if you're not willing to reel us in.

[Kids Heart]

Greddy/SR FR-S has push start. Just saying

[miata]

I am not interested in drifting or drift racing but I am very interested in the lightweight RWD coupe.

[DA1]

A crazy idea just think Toyota are stringing us along to release a price of
$20,000 US + orc to shock the sports car market into a coma.

In Australia that shock price will be $29,990 Drive Away.

Could this crazy idea come true,because it is going to be high or low $$$ at the end of the day or there was no point in playing with us!