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Old 07-26-2013, 08:26 PM   #15
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Why would they be ripping off the customers? You pay extra for the privilege of owning something that everyone wants. No one is forcing you to buy it at that price, but you justify the price of ownership on your own terms.

They drop the price to encourage people to buy more Z's. Anyone could've just as easily waited until now to buy one.
How would anyone know the price will be dropping until it gets announced?

Let's say you just bought 2013 370Z yesterday at $35k. Today, you find out that 2014 370Z with same equipment will cost $32k. And there was no way for you to know that the price is dropping until today. You still wouldn't feel like you got ripped off?
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$29990, I thought. Plus destination. And that's just a base model, not any of the other models which are still expensive. $45K for a touring roadster??

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A $3.3k reduction doesn't make the car any less FAT, improve the visibility, or the steering. The Z competes with Gen coupe, not really the '86.
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A $3.3k reduction doesn't make the car any less FAT, improve the visibility, or the steering. The Z competes with Mustang, Camaro, and Gen Coupe, not really the '86.
Fixt for heavyweights.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:15 PM   #19
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So... they dropped the MSRP to the same price they have already been selling for? Maybe we will get lucky and they will now sell for $26k. Not that I would buy such a fatty so close to the re-design.
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I had a thing for Chicane Yellow but that was only on the first model year.
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Hm base model only?...prices arent really dropping @ dealerships. My buddy picked up a 2011 base with 12k miles for 28k after all set and done!!! Jesus Christ.
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Still gets worse the harder you drive. I have never driven a "newer" RWD car that didn't not want to oversteer as bad as the 370Z. But of course, this was using speed and body weight of course, i don't touch the handbrake.
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How would anyone know the price will be dropping until it gets announced?

Let's say you just bought 2013 370Z yesterday at $35k. Today, you find out that 2014 370Z with same equipment will cost $32k. And there was no way for you to know that the price is dropping until today. You still wouldn't feel like you got ripped off?
For a purchase as expensive as a car (let alone a Z), I expect the buyer to their research. When I bought my car, I didn't just walk in to a dealer and point to a car and shouted "I WILL BUY THAT ONE!" I researched a lot, heed the warnings of multiple dealers, before putting the money down. Dealers are not all blood thirsty jerks and I've found a lot of them to be quite helpful. If you really needed to buy a Z yesterday, 1) I doubt you'll pay MSRP, and 2) you would be informed that the 2014s are coming out soon.
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For a purchase as expensive as a car (let alone a Z), I expect the buyer to their research. When I bought my car, I didn't just walk in to a dealer and point to a car and shouted "I WILL BUY THAT ONE!" I researched a lot, heed the warnings of multiple dealers, before putting the money down. Dealers are not all blood thirsty jerks and I've found a lot of them to be quite helpful. If you really needed to buy a Z yesterday, 1) I doubt you'll pay MSRP, and 2) you would be informed that the 2014s are coming out soon.
3) No matter how much you researched yesterday, you wouldn't have known that 2014 model would be $3k cheaper and you will feel like you got ripped off today when you find out about it.
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Good to see the twins already affecting the market.
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3) No matter how much you researched yesterday, you wouldn't have known that 2014 model would be $3k cheaper and you will feel like you got ripped off today when you find out about it.
Um... If the dealer told you that the information for the 2014 model is going to be announced tomorrow or sometime really soon, you're not going to wait and see what the new features and pricing is? If the buyer doesn't have patience to wait and make a sound decision, then I'm sorry, that's the buyer's fault.
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Don't know about you guys hating so much, I think that under $30k that's a great deal. I'd rather have that over a Genesis or mustang IMO.
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Um... If the dealer told you that the information for the 2014 model is going to be announced tomorrow or sometime really soon, you're not going to wait and see what the new features and pricing is? If the buyer doesn't have patience to wait and make a sound decision, then I'm sorry, that's the buyer's fault.
That's a big "IF". IF there was any way for the buyer to know it (i.e. dealer tells you like you said), then yes, it's buyer's fault. But it wasn't possible to know that 2014 model will be 3k less before it was announced today. 2013 370z just became a rip off model year just like 2012 Civic was.

Say, you bought FR-S for $25k today, or last month or whenever. Tomorrow, Toyota announces that 2014 FR-S will be priced at $23. You wouldn't feel like you just got ripped off?

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