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xxscaxx · 07-25-2013, 09:53 PM

hm so back to my sti gas mileage basically

wrxgoose · 07-25-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I can't wait to see what a full dyno tune for max power on 93 looks like with your mods. Should be pretty beefy if Moto was able to get 225 whp on stock stuff.

I can't wait to see what @swift996 gets, and I really hope that with a good tune, i'll be maybe 250+.

sw20kosh · 07-26-2013, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wrxgoose

I can't wait to see what @swift996 gets, and I really hope that with a good tune, i'll be maybe 250+.

Try to get to a dynojet when you get everything squared away. Dynojets seem to be the most consistent across the US in terms of numbers. A good way to compare results.

regal · 07-26-2013, 05:39 AM

With the normal 91 tune I imagine timing is pulled and fuel added fairly extreme, I am thinking it would be a good idea to replace the stock exhaust manifold with an uncatted header, or have the EGT's proven to not be a concern with overheating the factory manifold cats?

Also looking at the 91-93 octane dynos I have to question is the throttle response on this kit really a lot better than the small turbo kits? Why all the choppiness? Comparing videos I'm not seeing the huge gain with positive displacement SC throttle response people keep talking about. Especially with these low boost levels is the difference even mentionable?

The main reason the innovate kit is a nice choice is because it is a good bargain and should be very very reliable. The base kit puts you at a nice spot where you can keep the clutch and no injector or pump upgrades.

There just seems to be a lot of emphasis on E85 and methanol with this kit but its main selling points to most are low cost of ownership, low maintenance, easy install, reliability, simplicity. I think a lot of us would like to see improvements with the pump gas tunes smoothness with headers and datalogs rather than trying to compete with turbo kits.

There are a lot of potential buyers out there that just want a quick bump in power and as we are discovering the warranty on these cars is not very good, why not bolt on some FI and have fun!

mad_sb · 07-26-2013, 08:21 AM

If anyone has some datalogs from the basemap that is available with the retail kit.. please shoot me a PM. I have seen a lot of FI tunes lately that do not look very good at all and I would like to compare from a drive-ability and safety stand point.

I'm fine with people deleting the ignition timing and cam timing columns if HG or whomever does the basemap is worried about protecting their IP. I mainly want to see long and short term fuel trims as well as learned knock correction, IAM, and knock correction, MAP etc.

regal · 07-26-2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad_sb

If anyone has some datalogs from the basemap that is available with the retail kit.. please shoot me a PM. I have seen a lot of FI tunes lately that do not look very good at all and I would like to compare from a drive-ability and safety stand point.

I'm fine with people deleting the ignition timing and cam timing columns if HG or whomever does the basemap is worried about protecting their IP. I mainly want to see long and short term fuel trims as well as learned knock correction, IAM, and knock correction, MAP etc.

x2

thanks

wrxgoose · 07-26-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Try to get to a dynojet when you get everything squared away. Dynojets seem to be the most consistent across the US in terms of numbers. A good way to compare results.

my problem with using a different dyno, is that when I used a dynojet (build thread, first dyno run) it showed 174whp STOCK. seems a bit high to me, unless I really do have a freak engine.

ft_sjo · 07-26-2013, 10:43 AM

Is this thread only for superchargers badged up by Innovate, or can others join in the party?

xjohnx · 07-26-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Is this thread only for superchargers badged up by Innovate, or can others join in the party?

I'd say join the party, if for no other reason than avoiding another "Acme Turbo Kit X" thread on the main FI forum. Talk about clutter.

DriftEm · 07-26-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Is this thread only for superchargers badged up by Innovate, or can others join in the party?

Please see the OP

s2d4 · 07-26-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DriftEm

Please see the OP

You are preaching to the choir, he isn't known to be a good reader or able to take correct info/suggestion on board.

s2d4 · 07-26-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx

I'd say join the party, if for no other reason than avoiding another "Acme Turbo Kit X" thread on the main FI forum. Talk about clutter.

Have you decided on your tuner/fuel supply route yet?

xjohnx · 07-26-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by s2d4

Have you decided on your tuner/fuel supply route yet?

Yeah, ended up going with @moto-mike from Moto-East. Ordered the DW 65c as well as DW 700's.

wrxgoose · 07-26-2013, 01:15 PM

Dyno tuning right now, first run at 250.9, second did 243. We're letting her cool off a bit, then will get photo proof

07-26-2013, 05:39 AM	#480
regal Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S/Toyota Yaris Location: PA Posts: 1,438 Thanks: 21 Thanked 316 Times in 232 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s)	With the normal 91 tune I imagine timing is pulled and fuel added fairly extreme, I am thinking it would be a good idea to replace the stock exhaust manifold with an uncatted header, or have the EGT's proven to not be a concern with overheating the factory manifold cats? Also looking at the 91-93 octane dynos I have to question is the throttle response on this kit really a lot better than the small turbo kits? Why all the choppiness? Comparing videos I'm not seeing the huge gain with positive displacement SC throttle response people keep talking about. Especially with these low boost levels is the difference even mentionable? The main reason the innovate kit is a nice choice is because it is a good bargain and should be very very reliable. The base kit puts you at a nice spot where you can keep the clutch and no injector or pump upgrades. There just seems to be a lot of emphasis on E85 and methanol with this kit but its main selling points to most are low cost of ownership, low maintenance, easy install, reliability, simplicity. I think a lot of us would like to see improvements with the pump gas tunes smoothness with headers and datalogs rather than trying to compete with turbo kits. There are a lot of potential buyers out there that just want a quick bump in power and as we are discovering the warranty on these cars is not very good, why not bolt on some FI and have fun! __________________ 2013 FRS Argento Silver 6MT Mods: Clear fender side lights Tactrix ZA1JB01C 2014 Calib Last edited by regal; 07-26-2013 at 06:27 AM.

07-26-2013, 08:21 AM	#481
mad_sb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Orange County Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 632 Thanked 982 Times in 537 Posts Mentioned: 100 Post(s)	If anyone has some datalogs from the basemap that is available with the retail kit.. please shoot me a PM. I have seen a lot of FI tunes lately that do not look very good at all and I would like to compare from a drive-ability and safety stand point. I'm fine with people deleting the ignition timing and cam timing columns if HG or whomever does the basemap is worried about protecting their IP. I mainly want to see long and short term fuel trims as well as learned knock correction, IAM, and knock correction, MAP etc. __________________ ~Namaste~ 2013 Asphalt FRS

07-26-2013, 01:15 PM	#490
wrxgoose WUB WUB Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Charlotte Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 313 Thanked 1,573 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 52 Post(s)	Dyno tuning right now, first run at 250.9, second did 243. We're letting her cool off a bit, then will get photo proof __________________ Build thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40850 no more blower power

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