engine swap thread

[Lexicon101]

Originally Posted by smadasam

The ej20 and ej25 are the same physical size. The ej25 has a slightly bigger bore and longer stroke. Assuming the ft 86 will have some kind of ej20, so an ej257 from usdm sti would fit just fine and could produce well over 600 whp. That kind of swap has been done a million times. I am sure someone will come up with a kit that will fit in the intercoolling and exhaust for the turbo.

I think what is more interesting is what a built NA ej20 that is balanced and blueprinted could do. My built stroked ej20 can already rev over 8k rpm. Maybe 10k+ would be possible?

That would definitely be nice.
We have to remember that the motor's being designed for this car specifically, and if toyota and all of them are telling the truth, it is NOT an ej20.
Hopefully even better...

[Siriusly.Andrew]

Originally Posted by Lexicon101

That would definitely be nice.
We have to remember that the motor's being designed for this car specifically, and if toyota and all of them are telling the truth, it is NOT an ej20.
Hopefully even better...

Hopefully. Theres a lot of info we still need Toyota to tell us.

Someone infiltrate their labs and leak the info to us please

[Lexicon101]

Originally Posted by Siriusly.Andrew

Hopefully. Theres a lot of info we still need Toyota to tell us.

Someone infiltrate their labs and leak the info to us please

Agreed.

[Matador]

I think the actual engine will be the least of problems for people who want to make more power.

[Lexicon101]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

I think the actual engine will be the least of problems for people who want to make more power.

Meh. I don't plan on making crazy HP figures or anything. I'll probably leave the engine bay pretty stock, so.. it matters to me.

[RegisBou]

Originally Posted by Lexicon101

Meh. I don't plan on making crazy HP figures or anything. I'll probably leave the engine bay pretty stock, so.. it matters to me.

Yea man I feel you on that end. I just want better throttle response (Headers, Intake) exhaust if it isn't to loud/makes impressive gains for low noise system. Some kind of DBW throttle response system.

Cheap on the engine, all the money is in tires, pads, suspension, rims if stock ones are too heavy.

Now a great engine to swap if the weight wasn't too bad would be a H-6...can't do a prosche engine, but a subaru flat-6...E33? something like that.

I think stock will be the best though honestly. They have the low CG down. Direct injection (torque!). Light weight front end. High revving, hopefully more guts than a s2k..no offense...

Who wants the engine swap headache now anyways? Wait till your 7 year warranty is out..

Unless you are a racing/drifting team a bigger engine will most likely be impractical in terms of money and benefit.

Just my .02 cents

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Lexicon101

Meh. I don't plan on making crazy HP figures or anything. I'll probably leave the engine bay pretty stock, so.. it matters to me.

You are missing my point.

[Lexicon101]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

You are missing my point.

I'm not. I don't want more power. I want a well-balanced, reliable fun-machine. Anyway, I guess I'm posting in the wrong thread if this is my viewpoint, so.. never mind me.

[Calais]

Originally Posted by RegisBou

Now a great engine to swap if the weight wasn't too bad would be a H-6...can't do a prosche engine, but a subaru flat-6...E33? something like that.


Just my .02 cents

i was just about to ask why no1 has said porsche engine swap because i thought it would be a good option because of the qualities of those engines

OBVIOUSLY im not mechanically minded and know that a porsche engine will be hard to engine swap, but is it really unable to be done? what would you have to do to be able to put a porsche engine in the FT??

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Calais

i was just about to ask why no1 has said porsche engine swap because i thought it would be a good option because of the qualities of those engines

OBVIOUSLY im not mechanically minded and know that a porsche engine will be hard to engine swap, but is it really unable to be done? what would you have to do to be able to put a porsche engine in the FT??

To make it simple, that's like saying making FF car into FR car using FF engine and FR tranny... but hell, if you have enough money anything is possible. I have seen rotary engine in Impreza with fully working AWD system.

[NESW20]

you mean like this?

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...9&postcount=24

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...4&postcount=26

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...0&postcount=34

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...9&postcount=59



-Mike

[Lexicon101]

Originally Posted by NESW20

you mean like this?

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...9&postcount=24

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...4&postcount=26

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...0&postcount=34

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...9&postcount=59



-Mike

That's ridik, man!
I'm not into the whole heavily-modded thing... but I've gotta respect the effort.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Lexicon101

I'm not. I don't want more power. I want a well-balanced, reliable fun-machine. Anyway, I guess I'm posting in the wrong thread if this is my viewpoint, so.. never mind me.

Yes you are. You are on a completely different page. You don't want more power. Fine, that's cool. I said that the engine will be the least of problems for people who wanna make more power. I think the tranny and maybe the rear end will be a bigger issue.

Originally Posted by Calais

i was just about to ask why no1 has said porsche engine swap because i thought it would be a good option because of the qualities of those engines

OBVIOUSLY im not mechanically minded and know that a porsche engine will be hard to engine swap, but is it really unable to be done? what would you have to do to be able to put a porsche engine in the FT??

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

To make it simple, that's like saying making FF car into FR car using FF engine and FR tranny... but hell, if you have enough money anything is possible. I have seen rotary engine in Impreza with fully working AWD system.

I think you are completely off base with your analogy. If the porche engine can mount up with the FT's tranny, then it's cake. Porsche engines are longitudinally mounted as well, just in the rear instead of the front.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by NESW20

you mean like this?

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...9&postcount=24

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...4&postcount=26

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...0&postcount=34

http://www.9thgencorolla.com/forum/s...9&postcount=59



-Mike

Why? Why? Why? Why? WHY? Why ppl do that....? Well like Lexicon101 said, I give him some respect for doin' some ridiculous work... but if I gonna go through these kind of work, I rather do these kind of project instead.

Ever see a 2jz 1977 Celica

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

I think you are completely off base with your analogy. If the porche engine can mount up with the FT's tranny, then it's cake. Porsche engines are longitudinally mounted as well, just in the rear instead of the front.

Yes I know that Porsche engines are mounted longitudinally. I have help work on Carrera 4s before, so I know somewhat knowledge bout it. I just made that statement cuz I thought it was easiest way to explain it. As for the engine mounting up with the FT86c's tranny, I'll bet you it won't. If it was that easy to mount a porsche H6 engine in then all the Subie morons (me included) would of swap it into their car instead of SVX, Legacy and all other H6 engines. Like you said, engine is mounted in the rear and result is crank rotation is different, so you gotta have special tranny (or crank) to make it work. Of course all these are just my analogy.