Autocar: Toyota GT86 vs Porsche Cayman

[Jaylyons1]

Originally Posted by BadMoon

Why are 0 to 60 times all over the plase for the FRS? This says 7.7 seconds. I have seen all the way down to 6. Wtf?

Good question. I can understand if it was an auto. From the majority of what I had seen, most editors were getting 6.2-6.4. Anything over 7 just sounds like the driver must be obsessed with fuel efficiency. It's even more weird since this one has better rubber. I figured that sticky rubber would net it in the 5's even if only by a hair.

[Sonolin]

Could be elevation

[ayau]

Originally Posted by zephyr69

This is slightly misleading because that is not a "true" TRD 86. Because it only has larger wheels, body kit, and exhaust. No strut bars, member braces, intake, suspension, breaks, LSD or any of the other chassis reinforcement. Yes that may cost alot more money but thats the point of the 86. TRD upgrades are there to improve the car's balance, handling and feel of the car without compromising the original 86. Testing it with a half-assed TRD 86 for the european market is going to cause issues because its undermining the real potential of the car. Im sure if they tried a full package TRD 86 the results would be very different. And it could even compete with the cayman S in terms of handle, balance, and fun. NOT outright speed.

None of those TRD parts will really change the car's performance.

[Cal3000]

Originally Posted by Jaylyons1

Good question. I can understand if it was an auto. From the majority of what I had seen, most editors were getting 6.2-6.4. Anything over 7 just sounds like the driver must be obsessed with fuel efficiency. It's even more weird since this one has better rubber. I figured that sticky rubber would net it in the 5's even if only by a hair.

Maybe the tire size and the extra weight of the tires and wheels kill it 0-60 time.

[Rydo]

Originally Posted by campy

...and they both got 4.5 stars in this review...

PMSL! What a fail eh?

My 2 pence is that the TRD kit in the UK is a disgusting marketing gimmick.

It costs ten grand more, and for that you get

1. The crap TRD wheels that are too small to take the uprated TRD brake it.
2. Front, side and rear skirt...that I do really love so no quibbles there.
3. No ducktail spoiler! Unforgivable as I always found the standard spoiler very busy and the TRD boot spoiler just makes the rear so much better.
4. TRD exhaust system.
5....

So yes 10 grand buys you not very much, but it will still sell like hotcakes to those desperate to get their hands on any GT86...or thinking they will be a member of some super elite by buying this marketing gimmick.

[Tromatic]

Sure are some insecure FR-S/BRZ owners. There are better cars. So what? For the price, the FR-S/BRZ is an awesome car.

[vgi]

has anyone noticed a big difference in price between ft86 (25K) and fiesta st (17K)? in US FRS is no brainer costing $25K vs fiesta st $22, however if the difference were more like in UK and one doesn't mind wrong wheel drive - then for daily driving the fiesta st would be a nice cheap fun car.

[ft_sjo]

In the UK, base model GT86 is £25k. Fiesta ST is about £18k.

[Animal63]

I couldnt said better! Like him! Thats why i bought my fr-s, its everything i expected from the fr-s. you dont have to have a super car to have fun with it. I drove mine to its first long trip from chicago to springfield il., and i gotta tell you guys i love it! Pure enjoyment. And thats exactly what hes talking about. Pure enjoyment:-)

[FRSfan111]

You can't go wrong with the twins unless ur a 1/4mile guy. It's a fun car w/ a warranty.

[Linseal]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I think the base Cayman's engine is what I wish the FR-S had standard. Between 2.5-3.0 liters would be perfect!

Would that be a doable engine swap?

[WolfpackS2k]

That's a good question. However there's no point. Swapping in an LSX V8 instead would be cheaper and easier.

[thill]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

That's a good question. However there's no point. Swapping in an LSX V8 instead would be cheaper and easier.

LOL. Or instead of spending all that time and money to void your warranty anyway, just drop in a supercharger or turbo kit that will get you what you are looking for.

[WolfpackS2k]

Oh I agree. But if we're talking about engine swaps...