"Come Race Me Bro" Encounters

[InvalidJohnny5]

There are Scion TCs with a simple bolt on turbo making 500+fwhp, it is hard to justifying a cobalt to be better than a rwd because it has so and so much power, that's like a 300fwhp civic if it even gets close, basically maxed out and barely breaks mid 12s. I throw a simple bolt on turbo run only 5psi on stock everything run low 13s at 242rwhp. Anything can be fast on a straight line. But if we are talking turbo fwds from factory the Focus ST > Cobalt SS any day of the week.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by enwave

It's hard to say "better" in an objective manner. Faster, probably. Better to most people? Maybe. Ultimately whether a car is "better" or not comes down to personal preference.

its hard to say its better in a subjective matter. objectively, its really easy to say its better. the cobalt doesnt do as much for me as the frs but objectively, it does more.

[Brzetto]

This should be good.

[ftc~brz]

had a crx try to race me...could have been good, or bad...I didn't take the bait so I'll never really know.
I am definitely over the trucks with the soot stacks trying to take a crack at me thats for damn sure.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Betting there are only a hand full who knows what this beast is...

No mistaking the silvery-blue Pontiac engine color. Tri-power '64/'65 GTO 389?

Those cars were legendary, but as in most cases, the legend is greater than the reality. They were only about as quick as the FR-S/BRZ!

[monkeedoo]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Its not that fast bro... I used one to race at RIR. I care because there is not much more tuning capability... Both cars you mentioned are fast in straights... Trust me I have worked on twin turbo vets, and blown s/c mustangs...
Now dont start an internet fight with someone who actively builds Sub 9 second Dragsters, and GT cars to compete in the SCCA..
This is siting in my bay at work right now. Yes, I did the motor work.... To Include Machining the block...
Betting there are only a hand full who knows what this beast is...

dude theres a car hanging off your wall

[fatoni]

here you are agreeing with me in saying the cobalt is fast

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Yes true, But its still fwd. And is pretty much at its peak out of the box.

Its proven by best motoring. FWD in same class will always loss...

here you are telling me its not fast a couple posts later

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Its not that fast bro... I used one to race at RIR. I care because there is not much more tuning capability... Both cars you mentioned are fast in straights... Trust me I have worked on twin turbo vets, and blown s/c mustangs...
Now dont start an internet fight with someone who actively builds Sub 9 second Dragsters, and GT cars to compete in the SCCA..
This is siting in my bay at work right now. Yes, I did the motor work.... To Include Machining the block...
Betting there are only a hand full who knows what this beast is...

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

You an Zdan Got it right. 65 GTO Triple deuce 389. Bored over 403, 282 Deg Cam.
This one will crank out 450whp. (If I did my job right)

Sorry for the neck bending Pic.. Love my Iphone..

As far as fatoni, I think I made my point..

i dont know what your point is.

[Stierzy34]

I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by Stierzy34

I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

So do Cobalts because when it comes to corners they lose. Typical American engineering, thinking only about straight lines, a few American engineer/designers did believe in corners but most don't. The classic Camaro and Mustang were great straight and cornering cars.

[Dazza]

Originally Posted by fatoni

its hard to say its better in a subjective matter. objectively, its really easy to say its better. the cobalt doesnt do as much for me as the frs but objectively, it does more.

Huh?

[sofrsnsokleen]

Originally Posted by fatoni

its hard to say its better in a subjective matter. objectively, its really easy to say its better. the cobalt doesnt do as much for me as the frs but objectively, it does more.

i'm guessing this guy won't admit he's wrong, but the cobalt is basically a fast POS, much like the caliber srt4, the neon srt4. It goes fast in a straight line, WOW! But good luck keeping traction in a tight corner. The fr-s isn't that type of car, its a blast to drive going 35 on the streets. The ONLY factor the cobalt ss beats the fr-s is in horsepower. bottom line. Its an old platform with cheap speed and power. thats it.

Anyways, had another "come race me bro" moment a few weeks ago. Was cruising on the highway and saw an evo with the boy racer spikes roll up on me and slow down when he caught up to my car. i was cruising at 65 and when he slowed down i dropped to 60 hoping he'd keep going. dude dropped too, so we just awkwardly cruised next to each other until he sped up and left. Im not stupid enough to try and race and evo, lol. I don't see why cars with 100 hp more try and race us, anyways. This car has a lot of haters, mostly because of its looks, price point and small engine. Its definitely a niche car, too expensive compared to its comptetitors, but not powerful enough to meet the demand of 275+ hp freaks. It is what it is, I love my car and could care less that it doesn't have 300 hp.

[tjohnson104]

I had something like this.... parked at grocery store far far away.... come out and see a riced out sti packed full of teenagers say lets park right next to this,(my car), as I just walked up to it. one dude was decently cool and was like I wanna ask him a question its cool, "how much power does it have". The over weight chubster driver tried impressing his friends and said " its only 190". I then said that it was actually just rated at 200. He laughs and boats about his cars power.

[bkblitzed]

i would have made him feel ashamed about the STi especially if it was riced out.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Dazza

Huh?

im saying that despite that i like the frs more, the cobalt is faster.

Originally Posted by sofrsnsokleen

i'm guessing this guy won't admit he's wrong, but the cobalt is basically a fast POS, much like the caliber srt4, the neon srt4. It goes fast in a straight line, WOW! But good luck keeping traction in a tight corner. The fr-s isn't that type of car, its a blast to drive going 35 on the streets. The ONLY factor the cobalt ss beats the fr-s is in horsepower. bottom line. Its an old platform with cheap speed and power. thats it.

Anyways, had another "come race me bro" moment a few weeks ago. Was cruising on the highway and saw an evo with the boy racer spikes roll up on me and slow down when he caught up to my car. i was cruising at 65 and when he slowed down i dropped to 60 hoping he'd keep going. dude dropped too, so we just awkwardly cruised next to each other until he sped up and left. Im not stupid enough to try and race and evo, lol. I don't see why cars with 100 hp more try and race us, anyways. This car has a lot of haters, mostly because of its looks, price point and small engine. Its definitely a niche car, too expensive compared to its comptetitors, but not powerful enough to meet the demand of 275+ hp freaks. It is what it is, I love my car and could care less that it doesn't have 300 hp.

you can think the car is incapable of taking a turn but in the car and driver lightning laps the cobalt was faster than the following: 2013 335i, evo 9 mr, evo x mr, 2013 gen coupe r spec 3.8, 2011 sti, 2008 isf, 2008 s5, 2008 s2000 cr, 2008 elise sc, 2011 rx8 r3.

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Point is, you have egg on your face right now..
You seem to think the cobalt is the bees knees...
It's fast, but not "that fast": a miata can be a lot faster, on a circuit track such as RIR..

miatas can be faster than a lot of things. that is another fact that has no bearing on the cobalt being as fast as it is.