Automatic Transmission (AT) Information and Upgrade Thread - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Lonewolf · 04-20-2013, 08:23 PM

Good news, I have been informed that South Side Performance has been quietly working on automatic transmission upgrades...details to follow

Captain Insano · 04-20-2013, 10:04 PM

Thanks for the update! Looking forward to seeing their work and products.

dokterdewe · 04-20-2013, 10:08 PM

looking for some good news !

Lonewolf · 04-21-2013, 06:32 PM

http://www.sspperformance.com/catego...brz-frs-a960e/

chewbacca · 04-22-2013, 10:40 PM

:happy0180:

Tiz · 05-01-2013, 10:20 AM

Would be great if SSP offered an upgrade!

Captain Insano · 06-22-2013, 03:43 PM

Update to this thread as some questions were in here on using differing final drive with the AT and if that would be OK or if it would negatively affect transmission shift software... Apparently the final drive modification works fine with the AT which is good news. This thread on page 11 goes into detail:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=27647&page=11

Lonewolf · 07-05-2013, 07:59 PM

Bump for new guys...

wlfpck · 07-12-2013, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Insano

Update to this thread as some questions were in here on using differing final drive with the AT and if that would be OK or if it would negatively affect transmission shift software... Apparently the final drive modification works fine with the AT which is good news. This thread on page 11 goes into detail:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=27647&page=11

Added the link to the front page under the additional resources.

chewbacca · 11-04-2013, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlfpck

I can't speak for them as I am not part of their company...

However...

I believe that would be working on upgrades for the traditional torque converter automatic. Therefore, they may possibly be looking at upgraded clutch plates, upgraded torque converter, upgraded valve body, upgraded solenoids, etc.

I doubt that they would replace the torque converter AT with a DCT as that would require a LOT of work in terms of controlling the transmission and messing with the ECU.

But again... just my hypothesis.

Also...

Thanks for the people that wanted to see this stickied. Having it stickied would be awesome. The support is great and I am planning to update some stuff this weekend. Also taking a look at a fr-s this weekend as well.

....Reply.....

Currious how long, estimate, itll take to do work for a DCT?

wlfpck · 11-04-2013, 09:36 AM

The reason I say that I doubt that they will be replacing the transmission with a DCT is that it is a completely different technology.

www.dctfacts.com

I would also recommend looking up the Youtube videos that have the cut away videos that showcases how a torque converter automatic works.

To summary, your traditional automatic uses planetary gear sets. Your DCT is essentially 2 manual transmissions shoved into one. One clutch controls your 1,3,5. The other clutch controls 2,4,6. The benefits of the DCT transmission is that it shifts extremely quickly.

The technology in these transmission are completely different. I doubt that they would do something like this for the everyday car enthusiast.

There would really be no benefit to fitting a DCT as the upgraded clutch packs and other parts would be more than adequate.

Captain Insano · 11-17-2013, 08:58 AM

Bumped up with update from SSP:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51851
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13333

Captain Insano · 11-21-2013, 08:27 PM

Hey wlfpck can you update first post in the SSP section with the link to their new AT cooling system:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51851

wlfpck · 11-22-2013, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Insano

Hey wlfpck can you update first post in the SSP section with the link to their new AT cooling system:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51851

Updated.

04-22-2013, 10:40 PM	#61
chewbacca Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Frs-t Location: Casa Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Way to go :happy0180:

11-04-2013, 09:36 AM	#67
wlfpck Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2015 GTI Location: OH, TX, IL Posts: 165 Thanks: 5 Thanked 72 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	The reason I say that I doubt that they will be replacing the transmission with a DCT is that it is a completely different technology. www.dctfacts.com I would also recommend looking up the Youtube videos that have the cut away videos that showcases how a torque converter automatic works. To summary, your traditional automatic uses planetary gear sets. Your DCT is essentially 2 manual transmissions shoved into one. One clutch controls your 1,3,5. The other clutch controls 2,4,6. The benefits of the DCT transmission is that it shifts extremely quickly. The technology in these transmission are completely different. I doubt that they would do something like this for the everyday car enthusiast. There would really be no benefit to fitting a DCT as the upgraded clutch packs and other parts would be more than adequate. __________________ 2013 GTI - Gone 2015 GTI

11-17-2013, 08:58 AM	#68
Captain Insano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2014 Jeep Wrangler RubiconX Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,282 Thanks: 110 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	Bumped up with update from SSP: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51851 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13333 Last edited by Captain Insano; 11-21-2013 at 08:25 PM.

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06-22-2013, 03:43 PM	#63
Captain Insano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2014 Jeep Wrangler RubiconX Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,282 Thanks: 110 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	Update to this thread as some questions were in here on using differing final drive with the AT and if that would be OK or if it would negatively affect transmission shift software... Apparently the final drive modification works fine with the AT which is good news. This thread on page 11 goes into detail: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=27647&page=11

07-05-2013, 07:59 PM	#64
Lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Moped Location: CA Posts: 4,300 Thanks: 4,905 Thanked 2,132 Times in 1,195 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s)	Bump for new guys...

11-21-2013, 08:27 PM	#69
Captain Insano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2014 Jeep Wrangler RubiconX Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,282 Thanks: 110 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	Hey wlfpck can you update first post in the SSP section with the link to their new AT cooling system: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51851

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