Full Specs and Info on GREDDY SCION FR-S

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Why bother with that when they could just bolt on a set of cheap spacer adapters? They had a week to setup a jig to make the exhaust, figure out what suspension parts to use, order whatever parts they needed, etc. Searching for and finding that perfect bolt in hub isn't likely something they would have had time to deal with. Either the STI ones directly fit in the as1 hub (happy jdlm? :P ) or they just went the easy and fast route.

If I had a week I know which route I would have gone.. 1st try to bolt on STI knuckles, and once that failed, bolt on spacer adapters. They did it for a reveal, it's not like it had to be the best setup ever.

I am intriqued by a real conversaion to STI hubs simply for easier 17x8.5" wheel selection but I won't run spacer adapters to get 5x114.3 instead.

Knowing the standing relationship that GREDDY and Toyota have I am sure they opened the parts bin or gave inside info.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by JDLM

I think after release a "real" look/tear down will be needed (if they are in fact Impreza parts "slightly" modified then the questions are:

How?

When?


Then get the ball rolling

Agreed. I'm not even sure they are slightly modified. There will be a.. hmm not sure what the correct word is, but a "shaft" to replace the end of the axle for the bearing/hub assemly to slide onto... that may be all that's bolted to the hub. It needs something in the middle so the bearing doesn't destroy itself.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by JDLM

Knowing the standing relationship that GREDDY and Toyota have I am sure they opened the parts bin or gave inside info.

Yeah but in this case it'd be a Subaru part.. for RWD.. which doesn't exist a front knuckle with no axle through it... The WRX bearing is pressed into the knuckle and then the hub is pressed into the bearing. Standard stuff.

The only modification I can see is bolting on an axle end or what not for the bearing/hub assembly to slide over. I would not be surprised if the hub/bearing assembly belongs to a Toyota FWD car (using the rear bearing/hub assembly) though, simply enough to use that on the front since the setup would then be the same (just a threaded shaft, slide the assemble over, put on a washer, and then tighten the axle nut.)

[madfast]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Why bother with that when they could just bolt on a set of cheap spacer adapters?

so they can get a head start and sell the conversion kit at launch or close to it? think about it. they have a golden opportunity to prototype a conversion kit before anybody else even has a chance to see the car, let alone touch it.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by madfast

so they can get a head start and sell the conversion kit at launch or close to it? think about it. they have a golden opportunity to prototype a conversion kit before anybody else even has a chance to see the car, let alone touch it.

True, but that's a risky move and only the front is really easy. The rears are going to be worse. Unless there's a bearing that fits in Subaru's 5x100 impreza hub but holds the STI (or some other subaru) 5x114.3 hub. I'm not a subaru person so I have no idea what they do to convert to 5x114.3 so maybe that product already exists. I'm guessing Greddy went with those wheels for the look then had to adapt it to 5x114.3 just to make it work.... but then again recent greddy products I've used have all been trash (like sr20det oil pans that leak due to shitty casting) so maybe I just don't have enough faith in them lol

I'd love a real 5x114.3 conversion hub, or just the ability to press in STI bearings and hubs, but I haven't seen anybody post links to WRX guys doing that.. the WRX market is much bigger than the AS1 market so you'd think it would have been done there already if there was a good enough business case for it.

I guess I just like to see evidence of things posted on here, and none of the pics/info provides any evidence that they made conversion hubs at all. I'd really love to see between those wheels and the rotors as that would answer the question.

[Dave-ROR]

Just went back around and checked some of the pics and videos. Based on the offsets and how flush those wheels are, and the spacing between the wheel and calipers, etc I'm pretty much convinced they are spacer adapters. I hope they aren't (but then I also hope it's not greddy specific parts) but without better evidence it just looks like spacers are used to me.

[poormans_LFA]

what's wrong w/ spacer adapters??

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

True, but that's a risky move and only the front is really easy. The rears are going to be worse. Unless there's a bearing that fits in Subaru's 5x100 impreza hub but holds the STI (or some other subaru) 5x114.3 hub. I'm not a subaru person so I have no idea what they do to convert to 5x114.3 so maybe that product already exists. I'm guessing Greddy went with those wheels for the look then had to adapt it to 5x114.3 just to make it work.... but then again recent greddy products I've used have all been trash (like sr20det oil pans that leak due to shitty casting) so maybe I just don't have enough faith in them lol

I'd love a real 5x114.3 conversion hub, or just the ability to press in STI bearings and hubs, but I haven't seen anybody post links to WRX guys doing that.. the WRX market is much bigger than the AS1 market so you'd think it would have been done there already if there was a good enough business case for it.

I guess I just like to see evidence of things posted on here, and none of the pics/info provides any evidence that they made conversion hubs at all. I'd really love to see between those wheels and the rotors as that would answer the question.

I not sure I follow you. Are you saying you just think it's an adapter? I know there are adapters to convert 5x100 to 5x114 in existence already.


*edit, saw second post.

Meh...nothing wrong with space adapters to me.. Doubt I would do anything but daily drive on them though.

[JDLM]

I have friends that own STIs and other Subarus and they hate the spacer kits because of the construction and hitting the wheels when they are on (plus extra long bolts)

[poormans_LFA]

Originally Posted by JDLM

I have friends that own STIs and other Subarus and they hate the spacer kits because of the construction and hitting the wheels when they are on (plus extra long bolts)

that sounds pretty lame. sounds like a hub conversion kit would be a lot easier/better to live w/.

[DommerEOD]

For having such little time, GReddy did a fantastic job with this car!

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

such a poormans_LFA

:happy0180:

Ha.. wow. ain't that the truth! Never would have thought to compare if you didn't post these pics :happy0180:

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by DommerEOD

For having such little time, GReddy did a fantastic job with this car!









Ha.. wow. ain't that the truth! Never would have thought to compare if you didn't post these pics :happy0180:

was real evident in the FT concepts headlamp design (then they softened the production ones up)

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

what's wrong w/ spacer adapters??

Wrong? I guess nothing, but here's what I don't like about them personally:
1. I've had them come loose a bit before, so instead of just checking the wheel's lug torque you have to remove the wheel and check the spacer, then put the wheel back on and tighten/check them.
2. Depending on spacing, you may need a really high offset wheel to keep the wheel and tire inside the finder, or close to flush... I don't stretch tires so I want clearance for the tire.
3. They place additional load on the wheel bearings (which if the 5x100 Subaru bearings are really as bad as some say, you could experience accelerated bearing wear due to the spacers/spacer adapters).

[Ryuu0u]

All those juicy mods and they couldn't have changed that ugly antenna to a shark fin one lol