FT86CLUB Cool Wall: Saab 9-3 Viggen - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Joakim3 · 07-08-2013, 03:38 PM

Saab 9-3 Viggen

The Specs
Production: 1999-2002
Style: 3-Door Hatchback/4-Door Sedan
Engine: I4 Turbo 225hp/252lb-ft or 230hp/258lb-ft
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Layout: FF

Joakim3 · 07-09-2013, 03:05 AM

I'll take the first plunge and say it's a cool car

It's the last "true" Saab before GM foddered the company, which means it has heritage. It likes to come up with new and exciting ways to physically harm you, which means you drive a mans car not a computer with 4 wheels. That Lighting blue. It's an f'ing hatchback

It's not Sub-Zero though because the chassis is pitifully ill equipped to handle the power output thus is turns like a container ship, and it's FF... Something that equates to performance in the same way CO equates to healthy breathing

zygrene · 07-09-2013, 06:29 AM

Definitely a cool car, but not one I lust after. On paper it reminds me a lot of my daily driven Audi A3. 200+ hp Turbo inline-4, FF layout, around 3200lb, hatch, manual. Great for a daily driver, but less than optimal for twisty roads and tracks.

chulooz · 07-09-2013, 10:22 AM

The cool saab is in the background.

Joakim3 · 07-09-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chulooz

The cool saab is in the background.

You and me both ;P

I was going to put the 9000 Aero, but I wanna baby step the forums, can't give you the cherry on top saabs yet

Joakim3 · 07-09-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchy

its uncool, a car that hairdressers would own.

also i like this cool wall idea, is someone going to keep track of it

I shall

(I'll make another thread strictly for results)

ZetaVI · 07-09-2013, 09:18 PM

I say cool because Saabs are rare nowadays so the value and demand probably goes up therefore cool. Well, cooler than it used to be.

dem00n · 07-09-2013, 11:34 PM

Since Saab is gone (sorta) they have fallen in a bit more into the car enthusiast side, more then ever are the Viggens and turbos being bought, used of course.

TylerLieberman · 07-11-2013, 01:34 PM

......bleh

Bullnettles · 07-11-2013, 01:41 PM

Viggen, the car that will do it's best to torque-steer your ass into a wall. I have a 9-3 tuned to 210HP and it's a handful, can't imagine a tuned Viggen... Anyone want a beater 9-3?

Joakim3 · 07-11-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullnettles

Viggen, the car that will do it's best to torque-steer your ass into a wall. I have a 9-3 tuned to 210HP and it's a handful, can't imagine a tuned Viggen... Anyone want a beater 9-3?

Lmao my dads stock Viggen tried to send us into the medium barrier a couple years ago... that was fun

It doesn't help we have 00' so they have zero traction control.... and with 260+ going to the wheels, tire spin is a way of life

I know our mechanic built some kid a ~350whp viggen that snaps control arms like every other month, the thing eats E92 M3's for breakfast, and RS4's for lunch -.-

Bullnettles · 07-11-2013, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joakim3

Lmao my dads stock Viggen tried to send us into the medium barrier a couple years ago... that was fun

It doesn't help we have 00' so they have zero traction control.... and with 260+ going to the wheels, tire spin is a way of life

I know our mechanic built some kid a ~350whp viggen that snaps control arms like every other month, the things eats E92 M3's for breakfast, and RS4's for lunch -.-

I bet, it feels unbeatable once the turbo spools. I don't get it, that feeling. Had a blown TBSS and the 210HP tune felt faster.

Joakim3 · 07-11-2013, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullnettles

I bet, it feels unbeatable once the turbo spools. I don't get it, that feeling. Had a blown TBSS and the 210HP tune felt faster.

I know for the fact (when it comes to Viggens) they are hp & tq ratings are severely underrated (very similar to the SRT-4's). The Vigs consistently put down 215-220 @the wheels on dyno's, thats ~250-260hp @the crank. I've heard of an extremely rare case that put down close 230whp & 280 ft/tq bone stock

You should see the look of Sti & Evo's drivers faces when we they get a car length (or two) put on them from a highway roll

All this being said getting humbled by an E55 AMG kept the ego in check (dad wanted to see the difference between a fast car and 12s sedan)

Bullnettles · 07-11-2013, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joakim3

I know for the fact (when it comes to Viggens) they are hp & tq ratings are severely underrated (very similar to the SRT-4's). The Vigs consistently put down 215-220 @the wheels on dyno's, thats ~250-260hp @the crank. I've heard of an extremely rare case that put down close 230whp & 280 ft/tq bone stock

You should see the look of Sti & Evo's drivers faces when we they get a car length (or two) put on them from a highway roll

All this being said getting humbled by an E55 AMG kept the ego in check (dad wanted to see the difference between a fast car and 12s sedan)

Hahaha! I bet. I got spanked by one of those as well. It was just... gone.

View Poll Results: FT86CLUB Cool Wall: Saab 9-3 Viggen
Sub-Zero	1	2.78%
Cool	16	44.44%
Uncool	14	38.89%
Seriously Uncool	5	13.89%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

07-08-2013, 03:38 PM	#1
Joakim3 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 04' Saab 9-5 Aero Location: Elkridge, MD Posts: 602 Thanks: 7 Thanked 199 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FT86CLUB Cool Wall: Saab 9-3 Viggen Saab 9-3 Viggen The Specs Production: 1999-2002 Style: 3-Door Hatchback/4-Door Sedan Engine: I4 Turbo 225hp/252lb-ft or 230hp/258lb-ft Transmission: 5-Speed Manual Layout: FF __________________ _____________________ You know what they say... pick two: cheap, fast, reliable. Last edited by Joakim3; 07-19-2013 at 11:02 AM.

07-09-2013, 03:05 AM	#2
Joakim3 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 04' Saab 9-5 Aero Location: Elkridge, MD Posts: 602 Thanks: 7 Thanked 199 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'll take the first plunge and say it's a cool car It's the last "true" Saab before GM foddered the company, which means it has heritage. It likes to come up with new and exciting ways to physically harm you, which means you drive a mans car not a computer with 4 wheels. That Lighting blue. It's an f'ing hatchback It's not Sub-Zero though because the chassis is pitifully ill equipped to handle the power output thus is turns like a container ship, and it's FF... Something that equates to performance in the same way CO equates to healthy breathing __________________ _____________________ You know what they say... pick two: cheap, fast, reliable.

07-09-2013, 11:34 PM	#8
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Since Saab is gone (sorta) they have fallen in a bit more into the car enthusiast side, more then ever are the Viggens and turbos being bought, used of course. __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

07-11-2013, 01:34 PM	#9
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,686 Thanks: 658 Thanked 3,363 Times in 1,584 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	......bleh __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

07-09-2013, 06:29 AM	#3
zygrene Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 1991 Formula Red NSX Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 218 Thanks: 69 Thanked 59 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Definitely a cool car, but not one I lust after. On paper it reminds me a lot of my daily driven Audi A3. 200+ hp Turbo inline-4, FF layout, around 3200lb, hatch, manual. Great for a daily driver, but less than optimal for twisty roads and tracks.

07-09-2013, 10:22 AM	#4
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07-09-2013, 09:18 PM	#7
ZetaVI Gundam Meister Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: A Gundam Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 2,685 Thanks: 320 Thanked 1,010 Times in 510 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I say cool because Saabs are rare nowadays so the value and demand probably goes up therefore cool. Well, cooler than it used to be.

07-11-2013, 01:41 PM	#10
Bullnettles Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Scion FR-S 2013 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 257 Thanks: 89 Thanked 32 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Viggen, the car that will do it's best to torque-steer your ass into a wall. I have a 9-3 tuned to 210HP and it's a handful, can't imagine a tuned Viggen... Anyone want a beater 9-3?

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