Subaru BRZ Black Edition Concept to Debut at 2012 TAS. BRZ GT300 Race Plans. - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Alfie · 12-28-2011, 08:18 PM

I am mostly interested in how much faster all the orange bits make it go

tranzformer · 12-28-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slide

Shouldn't need to retest if it's the same car...

Cause they you are saying they retest cars with every little update like he we put a new stero on... lets retest.

It not like a whole new model lets say impreza then impreza wrx... they test them seperatly but for a car that has better suspetion, diffrent colour.... and diffrent exhaust...

I think you misunderstood what I wrote. If this car is a different version of the BRZ with a new engine (and not just cosmetic/weight reduction) then you better believe this car must pass US laws to be certified for here. You are in AUS, no idea what your laws are. This would be more than just a radio upgrade. A new engine would require it to pass regulations.

Caliban · 12-28-2011, 08:53 PM

like whoa!!!

Giccin · 12-28-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Syldrin

takes on to know one giccin! wait.... that doesn't make any sense.

:happy0180:

Dave-ROR · 12-28-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xrs

All I want from that concept are them rims!!! ...actually I just want rims that DON'T "look like they couldn't decide on a rim design so they combined both" sort of thing hahahah.

You just want the round cylinder of the concept's wheels and not the actual spoke/face design? Why?

Or maybe you meant wheels?

poormans_LFA · 12-28-2011, 09:27 PM

here's a PROVA front spoiler upgrade on a few GR STI, if this gives any hint to what they may have in mind for BRZ cosmetic upgrades???

some limited edt. steering wheel they did for summer of this year...

Dave-ROR · 12-28-2011, 09:30 PM

Man I'm so going to love never installing a body kit

Alfie · 12-28-2011, 10:25 PM

Im with you ROR!
Greddy proved this thing looks great with a drop- DONE!

(+ a trunk lip)

poormans_LFA · 12-28-2011, 10:28 PM

who knows...they could come up w/ something that looks pretty bomb. we'll see. i'm normally not one for body kits, but if it looks good...and it's not to steep on the $$$$ then who knows? generally the more subtle the better. IMO.

Stigmaru · 12-29-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Didierm

Just found, worth watching!!!!

I was always curious why Toyota and Subaru teamed up and what part each company had in creating this car.

Several comments i like to make:

Seems that Toyota took more of the engineering design role in the FT86 while Subaru was more into the research and technical work.

To modernize and improve upon idea of the AE86, Toyota chose to benchmark against the Porsche Cayman S which has great maneuverability. Therefore, choosing a boxer engine and competing in the battle of center of gravity was a definite figure of merit. Toyota going to Subaru for their expertise in boxer engines was a natural choice.

Subaru was given a requirement of a 100HP per liter engine that had great RPM ranges as an NA motor. It must have been definitely refreshing to concentrate in the realm of NA after producing FI motors for a decade.

As the design work was split between 2 companies, a $40-50K car easily became a $20-25K sports car. Subaru focused on the power train system design, while Toyota lead the engineering of the drive line system design.

Great videos~

mockngbrd · 12-29-2011, 01:10 AM

I will be at TAS2012. Will try to post if possible.

chulooz · 12-29-2011, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroWRX

I was always curious why Toyota and Subaru teamed up and what part each company had in creating this car.

Several comments i like to make:

Seems that Toyota took more of the engineering design role in the FT86 while Subaru was more into the research and technical work.

To modernize and improve upon idea of the AE86, Toyota chose to benchmark against the Porsche Cayman S which has great maneuverability. Therefore, choosing a boxer engine and competing in the battle of center of gravity was a definite figure of merit. Toyota going to Subaru for their expertise in boxer engines was a natural choice.

Subaru was given a requirement of a 100HP per liter engine that had great RPM ranges as an NA motor. It must have been definitely refreshing to concentrate in the realm of NA after producing FI motors for a decade.

As the design work was split between 2 companies, a $40-50K car easily became a $20-25K sports car. Subaru focused on the power train system design, while Toyota lead the engineering of the drive line system design.

Great videos~

Have you seen this in depth tech article?
http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...cion-fr-s.aspx
Most of the suspension components are similar or identical to Impreza parts; its a welcomed cost reduction and head start into the aftermarket.

Didierm · 12-29-2011, 04:06 AM

Here is a limited edition STI that Subaru Southern Africa did for the Auto Show in SA. It got fitted with all these extras, all from STI. Flexible Struts and short shift gear linkage ooooOOoooo.

Didierm · 12-29-2011, 04:34 AM

So I spoke to my MD, he was lucky enough to test both the BRZ and GT-86 back to back in Japan last week.

His comments were the BRZ has a much better handling feel, even pushing it hard you can barely hear the tires. He said the BRZ has a better feel on corners than the 86.

His words exactly "The BRZ has superior handling over the 86"

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Alfie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Sheeveek Si Location: the GTA Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I am mostly interested in how much faster all the orange bits make it go

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Caliban Terrorist of Chat Rooms Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: 05 E46M3, 06 CT9ARS, FR-S? Location: Oakland Smokin' Posts: 205 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	like whoa!!!

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poormans_LFA FT86Club.com O.G. Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Gunmetal Gundam Wing Zero Custom Location: socal Posts: 1,455 Thanks: 244 Thanked 221 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	here's a PROVA front spoiler upgrade on a few GR STI, if this gives any hint to what they may have in mind for BRZ cosmetic upgrades??? some limited edt. steering wheel they did for summer of this year...

12-28-2011, 10:25 PM	#64
Alfie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Sheeveek Si Location: the GTA Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Im with you ROR! Greddy proved this thing looks great with a drop- DONE! (+ a trunk lip)

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poormans_LFA FT86Club.com O.G. Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Gunmetal Gundam Wing Zero Custom Location: socal Posts: 1,455 Thanks: 244 Thanked 221 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	who knows...they could come up w/ something that looks pretty bomb. we'll see. i'm normally not one for body kits, but if it looks good...and it's not to steep on the $$$$ then who knows? generally the more subtle the better. IMO.

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Didierm Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru Legacy, Nissan S14 Silvia Location: South Africa Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	So I spoke to my MD, he was lucky enough to test both the BRZ and GT-86 back to back in Japan last week. His comments were the BRZ has a much better handling feel, even pushing it hard you can barely hear the tires. He said the BRZ has a better feel on corners than the 86. His words exactly "The BRZ has superior handling over the 86"

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