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CAMBAM_6 · 06-19-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

Take the stupid wing off and shave another 20lbs.

LMAO i lost count of how many times i have heard ignorant comments like this on instagram especially on track cars, i try not to respond but sometimes i cant help it. The fanboys love to call these purpose built track cars "rice" because they have functional aero parts

SubieNate · 06-19-2013, 05:30 PM

I'll be back later with some maths.

Needless to say, at 2300 lb and 200 hp, a well designed wing can be HIGHLY effective. Anyone doubting the effectiveness of anything on the Griffon car is a bit silly, considering it's track record.

Nathan

zephyr69 · 06-20-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristosG

It does have custom TRD exhaust that is pretty much a straight pipe, so I'm sure that adds a bit of power. Interesting that they're using the stock airbox and not the TRD one.

I believe the TRD airbox is a TRD USA thing. TRD Japan only has Sports Air Filter. Correct me If I am wrong though.

No offense to people who use TRD USA stuff. But they really suck.

vh_supra26 · 07-05-2013, 12:52 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y18bo5IYE50"]86 TRD Griffon Concept 2nd test - YouTube[/ame]

FRSfan111 · 07-05-2013, 02:30 PM

I want those fenders.

campy · 07-05-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zephyr69

No offense to people who use TRD USA stuff. But they really suck.

lol wut

cyde01 · 07-05-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

wow awesome i wonder what's been changed between test one and test two? looks like they added a direct cold air duct that goes to the intake and vents on the front fenders..

bestwheelbase · 07-05-2013, 05:52 PM

It just gets better and better.

Add louvers on the back glass and I'd daily the crap out of that beautiful thing.

Quentin · 07-05-2013, 07:15 PM

I love the armchair aerospace engineers that come out of the woodwork claiming that you need 400hp to make use of a rear spoiler.

Ammonia · 07-05-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

With 200 horsepower??? Haha. Shorter gears that thing has a top speed of 120 now...the wing is way over the top of anything which couldn't blast to 150+ MPH. It is just slowing the car down.

I'm thinking the guys that put this car together know a little more than you about functional spoilers and usable downforce.

Anaxilus · 07-05-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin

I love the armchair aerospace engineers that come out of the woodwork claiming that you need 400hp to make use of a rear spoiler.

^ This. According to Ross Brawn, you only need 175kph to sustain a modern Formula One car upside down in a tunnel.

175kph = 109mph; I don't think you need 400hp to go 109mph. Downforce/lift is related to speed, not power output.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Eht0vDoDg"]How does the aerodynamics (downforce) on a F1 car work? - YouTube[/ame]

TRD-X · 07-05-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zephyr69

I believe the TRD airbox is a TRD USA thing. TRD Japan only has Sports Air Filter. Correct me If I am wrong though.

No offense to people who use TRD USA stuff. But they really suck.

Yep your right TRD U.S.A. only CAI but really they both suck if you get my meaning....

Side note if anyone is planning on buying the Innovate superchager kit the TRD/USA CAI is a waste of money.

Anaxilus · 07-05-2013, 07:47 PM

Might be time to put away the Hotwheels and JC Whitney catalogs. Grab a calculator and open up a book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=rY2...0chart&f=false

Anaxilus · 07-05-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD-X

Yep your right TRD U.S.A. only CAI but really they both suck if you get my meaning....

Side note if anyone is planning on buying the Innovate superchager kit the TRD/USA CAI is a waste of money.

Why, did you already mod it and try it? How do the streetable numbers compare??

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