Have you hit 200whp NA?

[wrxgoose]

93. we've got E85 around here somewhere, but i'm not sure where.

[chate]

So basically, net gains of 17% (30hp- Moto-Mike) is the max anyone has seen at this point in NA applications, using the same dyno for baseline and final runs and including members who use e85, I went back and re-read the whole thread and that was the biggest gain I've seen, is that right?

Like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, dont really care what ur final number is, its the delta on the same dyno that paints the actual picture

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by chate

So basically, net gains of 17% (30hp- Moto-Mike) is the max anyone has seen at this point in NA applications, using the same dyno for baseline and final runs and including members who use e85, I went back and re-read the whole thread and that was the biggest gain I've seen, is that right?

Like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, dont really care what ur final number is, its the delta on the same dyno that paints the actual picture

My baseline was 160. With full exhaust and e85 I pulled 198.9 for a 20% gain. With a drop-in or intake it would have been about a 22-23% gain (5-7 hp more). Same dyno.

[chate]

Link to build thread?

That's closer to +24%, and w. intake closer to 28% increase from baseline...I think your build =win, please share !

[wrxgoose]

Originally Posted by chate

Link to build thread?

That's closer to +24%, and w. intake closer to 28% increase from baseline...I think your build =win, please share !

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40850
mine, if that's who you ment.

[chate]

Originally Posted by wrxgoose

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40850
mine, if that's who you ment.

Awesome, yes, that's actually exactly what I was hoping to see for someone

151.8 to 200.5 = +48.7HP, or +32%

Borla UEL, front pipe, overpipe, catback and intake + visconti tune...color me impressed.

if you dont mind sharing, what's the total $ you've spent?

[wrxgoose]

good god. um....probably close to 6k. also: it's the 3" perrin exhaust, not the 2.5. I think the shop knew I was going FI eventually, so just ordered 3". oh yeah, and add another $3700 for SC


edit: and it's actually headerback now, not just cat back.

[Hawaiian]

Man, I need to get to some of these dynos that are pulling 200whp on 93.

[Blighty]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

Man, I need to get to some of these dynos that are pulling 200whp on 93.

That same one had him at ~150hp stock so....

[chate]

Originally Posted by Blighty

That same one had him at ~150hp stock so....

yes, comparing apples to apples and getting increases of >25% is great fun, I look forward to the FI vs NA comparison feedback after goose installs the innovate!

[Hawaiian]

He also had a mustang dyno showing 173. Mustangs read low, but is 23 peak hp above baseline.. that or 27hp below the 200 pull. It's unclear.

[chate]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

He also had a mustang dyno showing 173. Mustangs read low, but is 23 peak hp above baseline.. that or 27hp below the 200 pull. It's unclear.

Dyno numbers "200hp" etc are just for show, the deltas and % increase from baseline tell the story on effectiveness of mods and tuning...so you bring up a good point if the mustang dyno shows only +23hp net, its very interesting...the deltas shouldnt be that different (15% vs 25%)

[Levi]

I'm still surprised there is no NA solution. I doubt there'll be any. I have the feeling everybody is waiting for the factory turbocahrged FA20, especially the one of the upcoming WRX, because it is to be high revving, have alot of troque and no more lag thanks to electric supercharger (as BMW M3/M4 F8X).

[mid_life_crisis]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 100 hp/liter at the crank considered the holy grail of a factory engine? The fact that this one delivers that without resorting to any kind of factory FI is pretty impressive, correct? So being able to squeeze anything appreciable from it is a big deal.