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Old 12-26-2011, 07:50 PM   #15
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I don't think the 86 would be competitive against the S2000.
I'd say it all depends on the course layout. Larger gates with elongated straights will allow the S2000 to breathe, but a more technical course could allow the lack of low-end torque to be present.

We will all be able to really see what this baby can do in a few short months
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:09 PM   #16
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yes. should be good fun.
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:14 PM   #17
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If there only were autocross events in Belgium.. I wouldn't hesitate
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:22 PM   #18
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I am hoping for STX, I don't think the 86 would be competitive against the S2000.
Except for one street tire car and a few r comps my ITR beats the local S2000s so I sure as heck expect to with the ft too.
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:58 PM   #19
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I'd say it all depends on the course layout.
Could be. Right now in STR, the S2000 dominates on more open courses, but loses to the lighter NC Miata on tighter ones. On paper, the FR-S slots in between those two cars, but there are a lot of unknowns. Without roll center adjusters (not legal in Street Touring) the front end will be have dynamic camber issues when lowered versus the competition in STR (though with the low cg it may not need to be lowered much, anyway!). The car has what looks to be an integrated cat on the header, which could throw a wrench in the works for adding power under the STR rules. It also remains to be seen how much weight can be shed.

In STX, it's basically a RWD, 80% scale WRX, which could be a major threat to the class right out of the box. Who knows?

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Old 12-26-2011, 09:18 PM   #20
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I plan too

Should be fun with a tossable car like this and who knows maybe we will run against each other in Vancouver
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Will you Autocross your 86?
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Old 12-26-2011, 09:33 PM   #22
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Hells to the yeah!


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Without camber adjusters (not legal in Street Touring)
That"s weird...so eccentric bolts are not legal in Street Touring but they're legal in Stock class?
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:04 PM   #23
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Without camber adjusters (not legal in Street Touring) the front end will be camber-challenged versus the competition in STR
Not sure where you got that notion, camber plates are perfectly legal in Street Touring.

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14. STREET TOURING CATEGORY
14.8 SUSPENSION
C. The following allowances apply to strut-type suspensions: Adjustable
camber plates may be installed at the top of the strut and the original
upper mounting holes may be slotted. The drilling of holes in order to
perform the installation is permitted. The center clearance hole may
not be modified. Any type of bearing or bushing may be used in the
adjustable camber plate attachment to the strut. The installation may
incorporate an alternate upper spring perch/seat and/or mounting
block (bearing mount). Any ride height change resulting from installation of camber plates is allowed. Caster changes resulting from the
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http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...lo%20Rules.pdf

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Not sure where you got that notion, camber plates are perfectly legal in Street Touring.


http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...lo%20Rules.pdf
I meant roll center adjusters, but I was thinking about camber curves. Derp. But yes, camber adjustment via camber plates or crash bolts is completely legal, so dialing in plenty of static camber should be a piece of cake. I'm more concerned about how low the car can go without the front roll couple becoming an issue.
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:23 PM   #25
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maybe we will run against each other in Vancouver
Very likely I attend nearly all VCMC and UBCSCC events
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:37 PM   #26
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It will have a hard time in STX especially against my MINI S JCW. LOL

Anyways the popular classes the car should be in is:
CStock
STX (STR if it was only a 2 seater.. luckily it isn't)
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Classing will be interesting. Stock my miata is c class amd the wifes cooper s is d stock. But I get to play with the big boys in bsp. Cant wait to get some 15x9's so I can at least feel competetive.
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Yes, I will race it in autocross, and I have been doing autocross for a while. It is hard to say how it will handle against the s2000 but for sure gt86 needs better tires to be able to run with s2000 and miata. Based on experience, I would say this car will run better in a medium to larger layout and the reason is that gt86 will have stiffer chassis and longer wheelbase, which will be used better in faster corners, and will be able to carry more speed. I would see this car be more competitive when you start to change the coilover, tires, and wheels. The way they set up this car out of factory is not for grip, based on the video and reviews that I saw so far (maybe I'm wrong). It's just because the car has lots of potential and if you start to use that you will get full benefit out of it. When you modify s2000 or miata, both of which I have owned, they have limits to their performance based on the modifications, but I think gt86 will have less limitations because of its setup. I just hope everything I said above will come true as it's only based on the information available on the internet. Don't hold me accountable.

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