Do we really want a Turbo BRZ? I'm going to say no.

[Snoopyalien24]

True lots of people don't want more power but, even Ken Gushi said the AS1 needed some more power for drift. Professional of coarse

[Homemade WRX]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

True lots of people don't want more power but, even Ken Gushi said the AS1 needed some more power for drift. Professional of coarse

I think that is all that most of us have been hinting at...but I think some think we're talking about making 500whp pump gas setup

I think most of us just know that we'll be bored with a 200bhp car. I've had a rwd Subaru, though a little lighter and making about 60% more power than the BRZ is coming with. It was a great and very fun setup. It was extremely driveable, had responsive torque (and flat from 3-7k rpm), was easy to toss around and pedal through a turn...oh and it had a turbo

guess that's a curse word around here

I do however plan to put a little centrifugal on the FA20 however. I figure Subaru will be releasing a turbo model in the future anyway and the blower will be easier to package, require fewer parts and keep a very NA feel to the powerband.

[ayau]

have you considered that a lot of these potential frs buyers are your standard average american car shopper who don't really care for the performance aspect of the car? imagine your typical scion customer who walks into the dealer and i think this will become a lot more clear. these people will never reach even 50% of the car's limit.

i think it makes sense for toyota to keep the price low of this car by keeping it NA. by adding a stock turbo, it doesn't align with the car's philosophy of keeping it simple.

[MrVito]

Originally Posted by ayau

have you considered that a lot of these potential frs buyers are your standard average american car shopper who don't really care for the performance aspect of the car? imagine your typical scion customer who walks into the dealer and i think this will become a lot more clear. these people will never reach even 50% of the car's limit.

i think it makes sense for toyota to keep the price low of this car by keeping it NA. by adding a stock turbo, it doesn't align with the car's philosophy of keeping it simple.

Based off of this logic, Subaru should have never made the WRX or STI, nor the Legacy GT. Mitsu should have never made the EVO, all MR2's should be non-turbo, etc etc etc

[Kostamojen]

I have no interest in dealing with the complexity or reliability issues of a Turbo motor, so I agree.

[TheRipler]

Originally Posted by Homemade WRX

I think that is all that most of us have been hinting at...but I think some think we're talking about making 500whp pump gas setup

You know some people are thinking bigger than that.

I'm glad the car is NA, and I think it's going to be a really fun package for the street. I want to get one to drive.

That said, I'm expecting Subaru to pull a 2002 WRX / 2004 STi on me again, and I'm hoping for a turbo in the 3rd year (my14). I traded my '02 WRX as quick as I could. A small good looking turbo RWD coupe would be just perfect for me.. A turbo version of this car could fix all of my perceived Impreza failings (big, ugly, 4Dr, AWD).

[NastyNate]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

I have no interest in dealing with the complexity or reliability issues of a Turbo motor, so I agree.

What reliabillity issues do you speak of?

[NastyNate]

I totally agree. I'm at 85k on a boosted motor. Stock was 7.5 and I run 12. No issues so far.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Levi

Hey, I think we should have thread for the ones that only want a NA Toyobaru. In this case we'll know who are these members and discuss anything about the NA engine, without that the turbo fans come up and turn everything in a turbo debate. Why do all turbo lovers want to convert us?

Already done that. Started back in May. Join the discussion.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1359

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by MrVito

Based off of this logic, Subaru should have never made the WRX or STI, nor the Legacy GT. Mitsu should have never made the EVO, all MR2's should be non-turbo, etc etc etc

I disagree. The AS1 is meant to be cheap, fun to drive, simple, drivers oriented car that the average man can afford. Just like the AE86. The WRX/STI and Evo focus on providing performance that would cost 2-3x as much in a European car. But they rely on turbos and complicated AWD systems to correct for poor driving ability. Let me say that again, they have to correct for poor driving ability with their complicated onboard systems. I don't want a turbo that will be overly complicated (compared to NA) and increase the cost of the car. This car has its purpose. If you want turbo add it yourself or get the turbo WRX or Evo. This car has its own niche and it isn't the high horsepower dyno queen crowd.

[blur]

Don't crucify people for wanting a modern day RX7/S15... a lightweight turbo FR is a niche car too. So why not kill 2 birds with one stone, by offering both versions?

You are correct though, aftermarket turbo/superchargers will fill in the blanks if the manufacturer doesn't.

[SVTSHC]

Personally I'd rather a supercharger but the car does need a bit more power (I'd be happy with 250-275 stock). Personally, my goal if I end up getting this instead of the GC is 300-350 on pump gas...

[NastyNate]

I'm a turbo guy to no end, but a supercharger stay consistent with the original design of the car.

[old greg]

Originally Posted by NastyNate

No issues so far.

My WRX is coming up on 100k and the only issue I've ever had with it, in the 50k miles I've owned it, was a worn out bearing in the AC idler pulley. I'm expecting at least another 50k.