Scion 10 series FR-S Limited Edition Announced

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I see what you mean. Have Subaru make it a GT-86 Limited, then give it to Toyota to swap out what they need at their own location. Thus final location is: Toyota.

Exactly. Although it still seems strange that they would ship vehicles to a different plant, just to have very small trim pieces added. From a cost perspective it just doesn't make sense.

[SpyderDan]

Originally Posted by caaf

Any interior shots? Does the dash have the same carbon fibre look as the stock car or is it slightly different?

I've only seen it from outside, through the glass, but it is definitely a different material. It looks like carbon fiber (though I'm pretty sure it is fake), and is smooth.

[caaf]

Originally Posted by SpyderDan

I've only seen it from outside, through the glass, but it is definitely a different material. It looks like carbon fiber (though I'm pretty sure it is fake), and is smooth.

Cool, I'm glad it's unique.
I'm gonna have to wait about a month for my car to arrive...

[applekash]

Originally Posted by SpyderDan

I've only seen it from outside, through the glass, but it is definitely a different material. It looks like carbon fiber (though I'm pretty sure it is fake), and is smooth.

So it looks like the dash from the Limited Edition featured at the NY Autoshow?

So any luck on getting sometime to get your car from mr. Big shot?

[SpyderDan]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Exactly. Although it still seems strange that they would ship vehicles to a different plant, just to have very small trim pieces added. From a cost perspective it just doesn't make sense.

Exactly. This is Toyota's main plant, in Toyota City, Aichi, which is at least a few hundred miles away from the FHI Gunma plant. I would be really surprised if it was just for badges or other minor trim.

[SpyderDan]

Originally Posted by applekash

So it looks like the dash from the Limited Edition featured at the NY Autoshow?

So any luck on getting sometime to get your car from mr. Big shot?

It looked less like fake carbon fiber, compared to the pictures I saw from the NY Autoshow. The weave pattern was nice and crisp, with no rounded corners on the squares like you see with cheap imitation carbon fiber.

The car that they showed at Toyotafest, which I assume is that same car, had a standard FR-S dash. I wonder if they decided to upgrade the part for release, so they had replaced it with a standard dash for Toyotafest.

I got a call from the dealer this morning, and I could pick up the car today if I weren't stuck at the office in West Hollywood. Maybe tomorrow morning, or maybe later tonight if I can manage to get out of the office soon enough. Apparently the BeSpoke/nav module showed up today (earlier than expected), so I don't need to wait for it anymore.

[UNICRN]

Ah, deal fell through at the local dealership because they wouldn't give me anything for my bespoke on my current FR-S and they so said "swapping" couldn't be done, nevertheless things were getting heated and I don't like being pressured. So I walked away. # 0039 won't be mine. I'll be working with another dealership about an hour away but directly with the Scion manager, who is an FR-S owner himself. I think having a knowledgeable person to deal with is worth the wait for me. Getting my deposit back and have a secured manual coming a little later. At least ya'll got pictures and a video from me? hehe

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by UNICRN

Ah, deal fell through at the local dealership because they wouldn't give me anything for my bespoke on my current FR-S and they so said "swapping" couldn't be done, nevertheless things were getting heated and I don't like being pressured. So I walked away. # 0039 won't be mine. I'll be working with another dealership about an hour away but directly with the Scion manager, who is an FR-S owner himself. I think having a knowledgeable person to deal with is worth the wait for me. Getting my deposit back and have a secured manual coming a little later. At least ya'll got pictures and a video from me? hehe

Good for you... More people should walk when the dealer starts pressuring you...

But yes, we did get early pics outta ya, lol

[applekash]

Just got an update from my dealer. The told me last week week that car had an expected delivery of June 24...

Just got off the line with the dealership and they told me that it should now arrive sometime before the week is over. Seriously?

I already own the car as all the financial paperwork has cleared and been processed... Yet no car like others still driving some RAV 4 loaner car. Whats up with Toyota?

[Brently]

Originally Posted by UNICRN

Ah, deal fell through at the local dealership because they wouldn't give me anything for my bespoke on my current FR-S and they so said "swapping" couldn't be done, nevertheless things were getting heated and I don't like being pressured. So I walked away. # 0039 won't be mine. I'll be working with another dealership about an hour away but directly with the Scion manager, who is an FR-S owner himself. I think having a knowledgeable person to deal with is worth the wait for me. Getting my deposit back and have a secured manual coming a little later. At least ya'll got pictures and a video from me? hehe

Good for you to stand your ground.

Although I am excited for this car, I think the features have been over hyped, and the dealers have been a little scammy in how they "sold" the cars to buyers. I feel like the car was horribly misrepresented in Canada, and I have come close to changing my mind a few times (and still might). In Canada for example, even though each dealership only got 1 or 2 cars, Toyota set a "special" financing/lease rate that is "higher" than every other car it sells-- they have NEVER done this before for a release series--EVER. What a jerkstore (Seinfeld reference) thing to do. Make that one customer pay a special financing rate.

Love the "pure pricing" garbage-- some dealerships mark that shit up and claim you can't haggle because of "pure pricing". Super scammy. At least that isn't allowed in Canada. Dealers can be reported to OMVIC for that crap.

Happy you are still getting your car. I think a lot of sales ppl are being ass hatty about these cars because they know they will sell them quickly.

All I know is the longer I wait, the less I feel this car is "worth it."

Anyway-- just my opinion...

[jpky16]

Originally Posted by SpyderDan

It looked less like fake carbon fiber, compared to the pictures I saw from the NY Autoshow. The weave pattern was nice and crisp, with no rounded corners on the squares like you see with cheap imitation carbon fiber.

The car that they showed at Toyotafest, which I assume is that same car, had a standard FR-S dash. I wonder if they decided to upgrade the part for release, so they had replaced it with a standard dash for Toyotafest.

I got a call from the dealer this morning, and I could pick up the car today if I weren't stuck at the office in West Hollywood. Maybe tomorrow morning, or maybe later tonight if I can manage to get out of the office soon enough. Apparently the BeSpoke/nav module showed up today (earlier than expected), so I don't need to wait for it anymore.

I personally prefer the original black "fake carbon" look. I like it because A. carbon fibre should be black, not the weird white/grey/silver it looked like in the (admittedly grainy) photos I've seen so far, and B. because the original car has the "T" pattern designed into it.

Also - it does kind of look like carbon fibre that doesn't have some crazy gloss to it; like its just been applied and sanded over (which would give it the weird interlacing/rounded edge look).

I kinda feel like the 10 series dash looks MORE like fake carbon to me and doesn't have the cool design references that the original dash does. Not to mention the fact that the GT86 has the original dash anyway.

Just my opinion though!

[thill]

Originally Posted by Brently

Good for you to stand your ground.

Although I am excited for this car, I think the features have been over hyped, and the dealers have been a little scammy in how they "sold" the cars to buyers. I feel like the car was horribly misrepresented in Canada, and I have come close to changing my mind a few times (and still might). In Canada for example, even though each dealership only got 1 or 2 cars, Toyota set a "special" financing/lease rate that is "higher" than every other car it sells-- they have NEVER done this before for a release series--EVER. What a jerkstore (Seinfeld reference) thing to do. Make that one customer pay a special financing rate.

Love the "pure pricing" garbage-- some dealerships mark that shit up and claim you can't haggle because of "pure pricing". Super scammy. At least that isn't allowed in Canada. Dealers can be reported to OMVIC for that crap.

Happy you are still getting your car. I think a lot of sales ppl are being ass hatty about these cars because they know they will sell them quickly.

All I know is the longer I wait, the less I feel this car is "worth it."

Anyway-- just my opinion...

Wow.. That financing scam is ridiculous. Can you get a better rate by financing outside the dealer? I would not want to give them my interest...

Otherwise, hold tight. I am sure if is frustrating, but once you get the car and drive it I am sure you will feel much better about your decision

[jpky16]

Originally Posted by Brently

Good for you to stand your ground.

Although I am excited for this car, I think the features have been over hyped, and the dealers have been a little scammy in how they "sold" the cars to buyers. I feel like the car was horribly misrepresented in Canada, and I have come close to changing my mind a few times (and still might). In Canada for example, even though each dealership only got 1 or 2 cars, Toyota set a "special" financing/lease rate that is "higher" than every other car it sells-- they have NEVER done this before for a release series--EVER. What a jerkstore (Seinfeld reference) thing to do. Make that one customer pay a special financing rate.

Love the "pure pricing" garbage-- some dealerships mark that shit up and claim you can't haggle because of "pure pricing". Super scammy. At least that isn't allowed in Canada. Dealers can be reported to OMVIC for that crap.

Happy you are still getting your car. I think a lot of sales ppl are being ass hatty about these cars because they know they will sell them quickly.

All I know is the longer I wait, the less I feel this car is "worth it."

Anyway-- just my opinion...

Completely agree with you. I felt quite angry when the dealership came back to tell me that we get the base model head unit in Canada. Pioneer for $500 more? No thanks.

When I told him I thought it was totally unfair that we get charged MORE for LESS, he said it wasn't a fair comparison because of the "volume discount" that the US gets and used Costco as a reference. WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSH!T.

#1: the dealership gets allocated the #s, so how can you claim a volume "discount"? Wouldn't they all be the same price to the dealer anyway?
#2: I would agree MAYBE on the volume discussion if A. if it was a normal car, and B. if we were paying MORE for the SAME thing (As a Canadian I have long ago accepted this), but the fact that we are paying more for a spec that is less than advertised is completely unfair.

I went back to the dealer and said that I would expect the cost difference between the head units be subtracted off of the cost of my car since (I believe anyway) the car has been falsely advertised and/or not communicated clearly to the Canadian market what we are getting. If Scion Canada was going to put the base head unit in it all along then why not just come out and say it up front so nobody thinks they are getting tricked/scammed? Isn't this a basic customer service thing?

I've asked that they give me a break on the spoiler since its a dealer-installed item. We'll see how much I end up getting (they originally offered me $50 off the item before I threw them the argument above).

I'll keep you posted.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by applekash

Just got an update from my dealer. The told me last week week that car had an expected delivery of June 24...

Just got off the line with the dealership and they told me that it should now arrive sometime before the week is over. Seriously?

I already own the car as all the financial paperwork has cleared and been processed... Yet no car like others still driving some RAV 4 loaner car. Whats up with Toyota?

Like I said weeks ago, worst launch of a special model ever...