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Old 06-23-2013, 04:43 PM   #1177
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Is anyone running the intercooled version in a car that sees track use? I'm curious to see how many laps it'll take before the liquid/air IC can't keep the intake charge cool anymore.

If it can't hold up to ~30 minute track sessions then I'll probably go non intercooled, but if it can stay efficient for that long then intercooled seems to be the way to go!
Anyone running the intercooled one on the track?
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:20 PM   #1178
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I concur with this, my car was tuned on a Dyno Dynamics down at HG Motorsports (same tuner for robi's current setup), made around 140 whp as a baseline before the tune.
Yep thats the one I used. Reads 17-20% less than a dynojet.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:22 PM   #1179
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So in dynojet terms, 255-260 with WMI, which is right around Robi's 260 with E85.

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Old 06-23-2013, 10:52 PM   #1180
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So in dynojet terms, 255-260 with WMI, which is right around Robi's 260 with E85.
Correct, the difference between the two in terms of what's on robi's car and what was on the bullet car for that dyno would be as follows.

Robi's car has no intercooler, but is running water/meth injection and E85 if I recall correctly.

The car on bullet's site is the stage 2 intercooled kit, and that dyno chart is presumably done on 93 (or whatever their premium gas is), and not E85.

I'm also going to assume that Robi's car is producing those numbers with his full Borla engine-back exhaust including equal length header.

I suppose we could infer from this that if both of these cars are putting out the same numbers, that intercooler makes a massive difference all on its own.
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Correct, the difference between the two in terms of what's on robi's car and what was on the bullet car for that dyno would be as follows.

The car on bullet's site is the stage 2 intercooled kit, and that dyno chart is presumably done on 93 (or whatever their premium gas is), and not E85.


I suppose we could infer from this that if both of these cars are putting out the same numbers, that intercooler makes a massive difference all on its own.
It would what be run on we call 98 (Which is equivalent to your 93), very few places to get E85 in Australia, and Bullet seems to only be offering the Intercooled kit here - which makes sense given our climate.

It is interesting though as I'm not looking to do funky fuelling and live not far from Bullet (in Australian distances). If I win Lotto it'll be high on the list.
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Correct, the difference between the two in terms of what's on robi's car and what was on the bullet car for that dyno would be as follows.

Robi's car has no intercooler, but is running water/meth injection and E85 if I recall correctly.
He doesnt run w/m injection. Hes on E85.

I am on w/m injection. I am on CA 91 pump.
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So in dynojet terms, 255-260 with WMI, which is right around Robi's 260 with E85.
w/m isn't equal to E85. E85 is just too good. w/m gets you close though.
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w/m isn't equal to E85. E85 is just too good. w/m gets you close though.
In this case, about five horsepower away. Which is fantastic as I can actually get meth. Though my first choice would be the I intercooler.

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I imagine with the huge low rpm torque boost this loses 5+ mpg on the highway compared to the centrifugal SC's ?
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I imagine with the huge low rpm torque boost this loses 5+ mpg on the highway compared to the centrifugal SC's ?

Wait, what? Seriously though I don't get how you are jumping from low down torque to MPG.
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I imagine with the huge low rpm torque boost this loses 5+ mpg on the highway compared to the centrifugal SC's ?
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I'm getting 31.6 mpg at 77 mph on freeway on base tune right now. The bypass is working
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One should be more concerned w/ their throttle position than low-end torque on a dyno if MPG is a concern.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:30 PM   #1189
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So you guys know that the Stage 1 kit has been officially released by Innovate right?
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I imagine with the huge low rpm torque boost this loses 5+ mpg on the highway compared to the centrifugal SC's ?
I get 31 mpg on the highway with this kit.
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