Next Generation Supra & RX-9

[82mm 4g63]

I've been looking for information on the new Supra and RX-9, but I've been pretty unsuccessful. Any news, rumors, forums you can point me to?

[Franisco]

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[Jay Grey]

Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63

I've been looking for information on the new Supra and RX-9, but I've been pretty unsuccessful. Any news, rumors, forums you can point me to?

RX-9; http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar103285.html

[82mm 4g63]

Thanks, that's one of the articles I've already read. I wish they would put actual quotes from actual representatives to support their claims one way or the other. Especially when I see articles like the latest from C&D.

"Mazda Not Working on RX-9, Odds of a New RX-7 Are Slim But Real"
http://blog.caranddriver.com/mazda-n...slim-but-real/
This article makes me laugh, considering the differences between the RX-9 and RX-7 is just a number. Both would be RWD rotary sports coupes based on the next generation MX-5 platform. It would be like saying Toyota is not working on an FT-86, but odds of FR-S are good.

Still nothing solid on a Supra though. Other than Toyota's own website mentioning the FT-HS which is a 4 year old concept.

[tranzformer]

The RX-9 sure sounds yummy. Question is whether the pricing will be the same as the RX-8 or jump up to 370z territory. If it stays in the RX-8 category we have a winner.

[huyttz]

rumors of the next supra and rx-7 have been going on since those cars were about to disappear... Supra rumors have since died, but Mazda keeps talking about a 16X rotary... but its so expensive to produce, i highly doubt it will deliver as promised IF it ever comes out. if you want a Supra or RX-7 so bad, get one... just do your research and find a shop that can properly build one. contrary to popular belief, RX-7's can be reliable... and Supra's can blow up.

[WingsofWar]

The current 16x blueprint is no more expensive than a well engineered 4 cylinder engine. The problem there in lies the demand to meet global emissions standards and target the issues thats plagued the rotary engine since its first debut.

Ikuda Maeda the chief designer of the next gen RX-9 has drawn up a few concept cars, but Mazda Corp has not given the green light on the project yet until they finish the next gen platforms that will inherit KODO and the new SKY-G engines.

Because of this, Mazda has left only a hand full of engineers left to continue to work on the SKY-R 1.6L Rotary. If they cant find a break through in technology by a certain deadline they will either kill off the rotary engine or mate it with hybrid technology.

Mazda Corp has no plans on developing a rotary car yet, but they also stated they do not have the desire to not release a next gen Rotary. Meaning its still in the cards for the company, but its not their focus as of this moment.

Here are some details about the 16x
http://green.autoblog.com/2008/01/14...generation-of/

A light read:

Word from deep inside Mazda's Hiroshima HQ is that development of its much-rumored, rotary-powered RX-9 is well underway. But as one source told us, the company has put the lion's share of its recent R&D efforts into its new SkyActiv engines and transmissions and the next-generation MX-5, hampering the RX-9's progress.

"We want to take the RX-9 to the next level but just can't find the man-hours to do it," says our insider. "We have a guideline. We know what we have to do. But as we must give priority to the next-gen MX-5, we only have a small band of guys working on the RX-9."

The image you see here is one artist's impression of what the next-gen RX-9 will look like. Taking strong styling cues from Mazda's recent Shinari concept car, the RX-9 is expected to receive some of the most flowing, fluid lines and edges ever given a Mazda sports car.

Unlike the outgoing RX-8, with its complicated rear-door setup, the RX-9 will be a coupe. This means it will be more of an RX-7 for the 21st century, but with a twist. That twist will reportedly be in the form of hybrid technology Mazda will borrow from Toyota, thanks in part to an agreement the automakers signed last year. Apparently Mazda will only use Toyota's hybrid drive unit, with the main power coming from the Mazda-built rotary. The hybrid unit will reportedly be used primarily as a power booster and range extender.

Our confidant inside Hiroshima tells us that there is no point in doing with a rotary what a current gasoline engine can do, hence the move to a hybrid-assisted setup. "If that was the case, we could pop a rotary into a compact lightweight car tomorrow. But there's no merit in that. There'd be no reason to continue using a rotary."

Just then, our source changed tracks and mentioned platforms. "Do you know why the MX-5 grew so much in size? Because we had to drop it onto the RX-8 platform, as both cars employ the same platform." And now, roles have been reversed. The next MX-5 will land in showrooms long before the next rotary-powered car, which will incorporate the MX-5's new platform, reportedly being downsized to dimensions that almost mirror the 1989 first-generation model.

"Smaller, lighter, cleaner, more fuel-efficient, and more fun to drive. That's where we want to take the next rotary car," says our source, who hinted at a late 2013 debut. And given the bad rap the RX-8 suffered -- fuel-guzzler, oil-guzzler, weak mid-range torque -- such a radical rotary rebirth is the only way to take Mazda's greatest legacy forward.

Read more: Mazda RX-9 to get Toyota Hybrid Tech? - Motor Trend

[Dimman]

^ I'm guessing the magical faerie triangle motor is hurt by the fact that it can't play with whatever its 'valve timing' equivalent is, since it is the shape of the port that kind of acts like the 'camshaft' and 'valves'?

[Giccin]

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-futu...rs.html?page=2

New news on RX-9. O: Seems like rumors of the remake are true. O_O!!!

MAZDA RX-9: RETURN OF THE ROTARY

Mazda RX-9 Rendition

Word from deep inside Mazda's Hiroshima HQ is that development of its much-rumored, rotary-powered RX-9 is well underway. As one source told us, the company has put most of its R&D efforts into its new SkyActiv engines and transmissions and the next-generation MX-5, hampering the RX-9's progress.

"We want to take the RX-9 to the next level, but just can't find the man-hours to do it," says our insider. "We have a guideline. We know what we have to do. But as we must give priority to the next-gen MX-5, we have only a small band of guys working on the RX-9."

Unlike the outgoing RX-8, with its complicated rear-door setup, the RX-9 will be a coupe. This means it will be more of an RX-7 for the 21st century, but with a twist. That twist will reportedly be in the form of hybrid technology Mazda will borrow from Toyota, thanks in part to an agreement the automakers signed last year. Apparently Mazda will only use Toyota's hybrid drive unit, with the main power coming from the Mazda-built rotary. The hybrid unit will reportedly be used primarily as a power booster and range extender. Our confidant tells us there is no point in doing with a rotary what a current gasoline engine can do, hence the move to a hybrid-assisted setup.

"Smaller, lighter, cleaner, more fuel-efficient, and more fun to drive. That's where we want to take the next rotary car," says our source, who hinted at a late 2013 debut. Given the bad rap the RX-8 suffered -- fuel-guzzler, oil-guzzler, weak mid-range torque -- such a radical rotary rebirth is the only way to take Mazda's greatest legacy forward.

[82mm 4g63]

Originally Posted by Giccin

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-futu...rs.html?page=2

New news on RX-9. O: Seems like rumors of the remake are true. O_O!!!

/keeps fingers crossed

[madfast]

RX-9 = RX-7 with KERS? interest officially piqued...